From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17172: 24.3.50; Timeouts when pasting from mouse Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:53:27 +0200 Message-ID: <534F8877.7000004@swipnet.se> References: <87eh1fsved.fsf@linaro.org> <534CE79A.3030600@cs.ucla.edu> <534D0749.3060404@swipnet.se> <534D57EA.1000503@cs.ucla.edu> <534D9453.9040700@cs.ucla.edu> <43B05B9F-D0DA-47AC-B8FB-4A780FF3E095@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1397721268 7376 80.91.229.3 (17 Apr 2014 07:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "17172@debbugs.gnu.org" <17172@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Nicolas Richard Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 17 09:54:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah9J-000757-1g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:54:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58333 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah9I-0001qj-Lo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah98-0001qc-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:54:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah90-0002Gn-Kt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:54:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah90-0002Gg-Hq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah8z-0002E1-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:54:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17172 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17172-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17172.13977212198517 (code B ref 17172); Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17172) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2014 07:53:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah8c-0002DG-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:53:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailfe07.swip.net ([212.247.154.193]:35896 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wah8Z-0002Cz-L1 for 17172@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:53:37 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Original-Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 493337851; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:53:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <43B05B9F-D0DA-47AC-B8FB-4A780FF3E095@swipnet.se> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88073 Archived-At: Hello. > FWIW, there's some info in bug#16737 which looks very much like a > duplicate of this one (I tried merging them but I got an error because > their importance is different). Could you have a look ? In particular I > mentionned there: >> Whenever I eval (x-get-selection 'SECONDARY) (or 'PRIMARY or >> 'CLIPBOARD, for that matter), it hangs for a few seconds and then >> throws "Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner". No matter >> what is in that selection, even if it is empty. How do you determine "empty"? If there is no selection owner, XConvertSelection should say so at once, and there would be no timeout. > Hopefully this answers your question. It does not. The most important thing with these selection bugs are: 1) Who owns the selection, i.e. the application copied from? 2) What desktop environment is used? We seen plenty of bad klipper-like software, i.e. daemons that constantly copy selections to themselves so the selected text survives when the application dies. Your statement of empty selection above suggests that you do run such software, possibly without realizing it. Most KDE users does not know that klipper is running. Jan D.