From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Gauland Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Orphaning Eshell Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:38:18 +1200 Message-ID: <534263FA.5060501@amuri.net> References: <533E64D9.8090702@amuri.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396859942 30517 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2014 08:39:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Geoffrey Teale Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 07 10:38:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WX54v-0007Iy-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:38:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33040 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WX54v-0003Nd-0Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46493) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WX54m-0003NU-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:38:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WX54g-0007YK-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from goat.amuri.net ([203.99.132.195]:46501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WX54f-0007XR-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.15.108] (unknown [49.143.231.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: aidalgol@amuri.net) by goat.amuri.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86D11FFB98; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:41:33 +1200 (NZST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=amuri.net; s=mail1; t=1396860094; bh=o7Xn0Ki0+zbV1ZN8Pa8qdTboYq+vm2qQqaXu5/xLAZU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X0bP+g3fl3IrUEAZaIyCM2meRr4E8RntGVG2BN/VhSzKtn65ss/5H9nE40R0ZA+Xl kK0N5e1LHW2mOH3nml3J9ByIulq2MoUnh9oh3h4TJDgroZmZ5+SgA0/CbE44gkwQ/2 SyiTJSJgqX0M9/JiZLXo/TDJYjM/RIK9yOYc7yYU= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 203.99.132.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171323 Archived-At: On 05/04/14 03:59, Geoffrey Teale wrote: > I use eshell every day. I'd be sad to see it go unmaintained. As yet > I don't think I've ever had to look at the code, so I've no idea what > the maintenance task would be like. Is it a lot of work? The only hairy bits for me were completion, control structures (loops and if-then-else), and built-in variables. Eshell uses pcomplete for completion, which I would still like to puzzle out and document some day, and is a bit cryptic. Only for is documented, but Eshell appears to implement while and if. As for built-in variables, their implementation wasn't obvious, and I never got far with tracking them down. Regards, Aidan Gauland