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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>, 17168@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17168: 24.3.50; Segfault at mark_object
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 14:37:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5341C928.6040308@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv61mmjhmd.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

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On 04/06/2014 02:08 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Sure.  But why would you ever want to unintern a symbol that pure storage
>> references?
> 
> That's a good question.  But it cuts both ways: if we don't know why
> it's done, it's hard to judge if it can be disallowed.
> I must say I don't very much like this idea of special-casing the
> obarray and the symbols interned therein.

I really can't think of any good reason why anyone would unintern a core
symbol --- all the uses I can think of would be better served by either
using advice or let-binding `obarray'. I sometimes use mass-uninterning
to get rid of stale function names when I'm developing an elisp package,
but this technique isn't useful for symbols referenced from pure
storage, and a good alternative is just resetting value and symbol
slots. (In fact, I shouldn't use unintern at all for this hack.) Since
it's neither safe nor useful to unintern core symbols, I don't think
it's worry about whether it's okay to forbid it.

Besides: we already special-case the initial obarray for keywordp.

Anyway, I'd like to get a fix into emacs-24 soon so we can make sure
we've fixed the GC bug. Are you vetoing the general approach used in
this patch? If so, I can look at alternatives.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-06 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-02  7:44 bug#17168: 24.3.50; Segfault at mark_object Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 15:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 17:59   ` Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 16:29 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-02 19:46   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:33     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:57       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 21:50         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 23:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03  0:28             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-02 20:40       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-03  6:59         ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03  7:04           ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03  7:55             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03  9:08               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 14:03                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 15:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 16:47                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 17:49                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 17:51                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 19:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 19:22                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-05 22:37                               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06  5:05                                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-06  5:11                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 18:00                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-06 18:10                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-07  7:49                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-04-07  8:18                                           ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-07  9:20                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-04-06 12:36                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 15:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 15:59                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 16:24                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 16:37                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:59                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 17:11                                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:44                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 19:42                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 15:46                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:58                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 20:13                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 20:53                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 21:08                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 21:37                                           ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2014-04-07 16:28                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-07 19:06                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-07 20:42                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-08  7:14                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-04-08  8:47                                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 18:01                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-06 19:58                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-07 16:56                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-02 20:49     ` Nicolas Richard

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