From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelling Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: The html manual's blue gradient Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 10:12:03 -0700 Message-ID: <533AF363.1090108@iankelling.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396372358 13656 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2014 17:12:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 17:12:38 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 01 19:12:34 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WV2Ei-0001c4-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:12:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33343 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV2Ei-0000Q7-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV2Eb-0000Pw-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:12:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV2EW-00082d-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:12:25 -0400 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:52459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV2EV-00082L-TO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:12:20 -0400 Original-Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBEA209FC; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 13:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:12:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=p ZTM2ieGJIGaWLpk9aQGTft2nG0=; b=u0qpQk0Dr3yavCcUEe9ZbNhiDxhckhEeI M3EynOTgv3IfzQZgm1zt2zkXA5ZQKqMJeLjvaZ5+LRYaRQch8C1/Th5UHXzs4bg9 et/n7VYP2YpL/9F28M9qoB7kYGP0wT/VczI8Yx3JqxxtHf80sezHmsELtOGZwdKr yHIMiABAN0= X-Sasl-enc: u2xuGqFMyE1kSwaJI10LjYn9kt/uJ7gUplyVyuwmF5gs 1396372337 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [67.160.118.141]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AA2B66800A1 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 13:12:17 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131103 Icedove/17.0.10 X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171249 Archived-At: example page: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Distrib.html#Distrib screenshot under firefox/epiphany in case your using a terminal browser or something http://i.imgur.com/Il2XLX1.png If I look at the whole page and ask myself "how's the gradient look?", I think it's a little unusual but fine. But when I actually spend time reading, I keep getting really annoyed by it. It's makes reading and skimming more difficult. The web just does not look like this normally, and it seems like it will be strange/confusing/more difficult to read for a significant portion of people. I think it should be changed. Suggestions for improvement: * Revert it. Make it like other gnu.org manuals. * Any solid off-whitish background color (my preference). * Use a gradient with much less contrast. example: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web. - Ian Kelling