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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117002: Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:59:49 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532ec4ce-8fbd-4792-b2a5-8c4e0f86b21c@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5356C1B8.4070007@dancol.org>

> >> That said, the CL way is much better. It's conceptually simpler to say
> >> that defmacro at toplevel is well-defined (progn contents being
> >> considered "toplevel") and everything else is undefined than to try to
> >> support this defmacro stuff in *all* contexts and run into the exciting
> >> corner inherent in your approach...
> >
> > Are you saying that in CL if defmacro is used elsewhere than at top level
> > it is not well-defined?  That doesn't sound right to me.
> >
> > (Apologies if I misunderstand.  If so, or if irrelevant, please ignore.)
> 
> Compilers appear to differ. Consider the code below:
> 
> (defun foo ()
>   (defmacro bar () 1)
>   (bar))
> 
> (format t "~s" (foo))
> 
> SBCL and ECL both signal an error. CLISP compiles the file, substituting
> (bar) with 1, then complains when calling foo that bar is redefined.

I see.  But that does not imply that the standard says that the behavior
is undefined for `defmacro' at other than top level.  That's what I
thought you were saying.  Implementations do not always implement what
a standard says. ;-)

> The SBCL and ECL behavior is what I'd expect from reading the spec, but
> maybe I misunderstood something.

Hm.  What part of the spec do you think gives the impression that
`defmacro' behavior is defined only at top level?



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1WcAcP-0006zy-MJ@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2014-04-21 15:09 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117002: Correctly treat progn contents as toplevel forms when byte compiling Stefan Monnier
2014-04-21 17:44   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-21 22:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-21 22:29       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22  2:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22  2:21           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22  4:25             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22  4:46               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 15:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 17:22                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:13                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:37                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 19:08                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 18:44                       ` Drew Adams
2014-04-22 19:23                         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 19:59                           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-04-22 20:10                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-22 20:41                               ` Drew Adams
2014-04-22 21:05                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-23  0:50                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-04-22 18:29                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 15:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-22 17:04                   ` Daniel Colascione

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