From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17046: 24.3.50; On startup emacs frame has no minibuffer or windows decorations Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:35:38 +0100 Message-ID: <532E022A.1010401@gmx.at> References: <87bnx1me40.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> <532AE836.2030907@gmx.at> <21290.64241.176419.931155@capuchin.co.uk> <532B4016.7010508@gmx.at> <21291.20160.94341.637290@capuchin.co.uk> <532BF24A.6090703@gmx.at> <21292.6903.499178.348@capuchin.co.uk> <532C5595.2090800@gmx.at> <21292.28324.463848.983080@capuchin.co.uk> <532C7A06.6080703@gmx.at> <532D5A7E.7010700@gmx.at> <21293.30111.645044.742129@capuchin.co.uk> <532D93D9.10101@gmx.at> <532D9C4A.8040509@gmx.at> <532DAA47.5020101@gmx.at> <532DAD2D.9050508@gmx.at> <21293.47677 .273344.433965@capuchin.co.uk> <532DD9C8.2090209@gmx.at> <532DE5C8.3070308@gmx.at> <21293.61407.237813.539443@capuchin.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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22 Mar 2014 21:35:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRTa1-0002BT-AB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:59856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRTZx-0002BH-LJ for 17046@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:35:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.166.84.159] ([194.166.84.159]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnCkb-1X2DZY3B6L-00hRbh; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:35:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <21293.61407.237813.539443@capuchin.co.uk> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9CoNL5unuC7rKhueN42pmG83bq/+FuRP2VfjlmOjWWB/b7p4XkN X91dLrycaFJijzKUcdvHzPq2U9WrkuTp0/tp+CoZDy4VO4nFNP5CSoqEkV91HaXqgrVc87I iw2D8xnApjLHnZ+kP/Jx7bWuXir023d/sbjx/L/ou7FKm87fXG0lpT9/lQmkiWAaLAOTJFF lD+v6AaBnYeo9QBf7VdJQ== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87196 Archived-At: > The frameset in Juanma's bug17046.el file only appeared to have one > window (in as far as I understand the format!) and I've just tried all > 4 tests with the file (& frameset) that was attached to his email (adding a > find-file of .emacs) and one window (onto .emacs) appears and no sign > of the problem I expected that. > So I've tried it with your version of bug17046.el (now with 2 find-files) > >> Now if that frameset produces two windows as I expect, we know that the > > problem is with transforming the initial Emacs frame, which apparently > > is not good for restoring this desktop. Then we have to step by step > > remove lines from bug17046.el until we arrive at the line that causes > > the problem. > > > > This does produce 2 windows but in no case is there a sign of the > problem - or is that what you are expecting? I did. If you now ask yourself why I wanted you to try that, then it's because I wanted to try with the more simple approaches first. BTW, you did check all four of Juanma's scenarios, that is also the ones without the (sit-for 0)? > I wondered about the > > (visibility . icon) > > line (I don't think I ever started it up iconized) and tried the tests > both with and without it with the same result. This is indeed a strange thing. Juanma, do we usually ignore this? > If I don't include the 2 find-files I get a single window onto *Messages* > > Not sure whether it is relevant - or you've already assumed this > - there's no resize facility on the bad frame (apart from maximize) move > the mouse to the window corner and no resize arrows appear. It is yet another mysterious detail. Please post now your entire .emacs.desktop file here, that is the one that you use to produce the bad frame in the new session. I'll then try to tell you what to remove from that file in order to narrow down the possible culprits. And thanks for bearing with me, martin