From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Caldwell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170813 Archived-At: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000403050306080104020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/22/14, 9:14 AM, Stefan wrote: > It seems now that your main (only?) objection is having RET do > reindent-then-newline-and-indent instead of having it only do > newline-and-indent. If that's the case, then let's focus on this. > In what scenario is it a problem? Let me ask this, in what scenario does it actually do anything useful? All the cases I can think of it's a nop, except when the indent guessing is flat out wrong, and then it's just annoying (Grrrr, M-_ C-q RET TAB). -David --------------ms000403050306080104020600 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMYDCC BiQwggUMoAMCAQICAwkFtDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBjDELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNV BAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRl IFNpZ25pbmcxODA2BgNVBAMTL1N0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgUHJpbWFyeSBJbnRlcm1lZGlh dGUgQ2xpZW50IENBMB4XDTE0MDIxODEwNDcxNFoXDTE1MDIxOTEyNTQzNVowQDEbMBkGA1UE AwwSZGF2aWRAcG9ya3JpbmQub3JnMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJkYXZpZEBwb3JrcmluZC5v cmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDkzgZ2USy/IIF69iMaP5dgxFrN n/ppK9+HRpKWsesQ71tTX9+CqObNny15tzbNgORggsM5vVB7EdyNOfwhu2ZUn48MVSKnKnIM 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