From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 48249@debbugs.gnu.org, dima@secretsauce.net
Subject: bug#48249: 28.0.50; Regression: emacs confused about window configuration due to ido-mode and/or winner-mode
Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 09:57:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <531453ddd625bf0ea1b9@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmy4dwv1.fsf@gnu.org>
>> When a low-level infrastructure has worked flawlessly for more than a
>> decade, making significant changes in it without making them
>> conditional to a run-time variable or a compilation option, until the
>> new code is "proven" enough, is unwise.
>
> First, a knob to control new code is not always possible, though I agree
> it is preferable when it's feasible.
>
It is _always_ possible. Whether through conditional compilation or
through conditional code.
>
> In this case, we do have a knob to control the new code, albeit not a
> knob that goes back to the previous behavior with 100% accuracy. It's
> possible that the OP should try flipping that option, maybe it will work
> around the problem (not that I think it's necessarily the solution).
>
Turning the knob doesn't work here, the bug occurs regardless of the value
of that knob. Otherwise I would have mentioned that in my reply to Dima.
>
> More generally, that's development for you; without risking such
> destabilization from time to time we can never afford significant
> improvements. The important question is: will the new-and-improved
> behavior be useful or won't it?
>
Indeed perhaps the most important question here is: is this a "significant
improvement"? IMO, the answer is clearly "no". Will this new behavior be
"useful"? In this case I'd say "perhaps, for very few users, even though
nobody requested it". But a marginal improvement that will benefit a few
users is not worth taking the risk of unconditionally destabilizing old,
time-proved code.
>
> Yes, of course. The introduction of bidirectional editing support
> during development of Emacs 24.1 comes to mind.
>
That was, of course, a significant improvement that was worth taking the
risk of destabilization.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-06 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-06 3:50 bug#48249: 28.0.50; Regression: emacs confused about window configuration due to ido-mode and/or winner-mode Dima Kogan
2021-05-06 7:30 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-06 8:17 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-06 9:57 ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2021-05-06 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-06 11:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 12:30 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-05-06 12:39 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 13:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-05-06 13:38 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 13:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-06 14:22 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-05-06 14:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-05-06 19:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-07 9:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-07 10:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-05-07 12:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-07 12:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-07 20:30 ` Dima Kogan
2021-05-08 12:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
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