From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hadron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:19:14 +0200 Organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark Message-ID: <52sl7dopel.fsf@googlemail.com> References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <877ioqdoq9.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com> <87hcnuc6hz.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com> <878x95dhne.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185288122 12383 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 14:42:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:42:02 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 16:42:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDLaK-0007MA-2L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:42:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDLaJ-0000wC-ET for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:41:59 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Trace: individual.net KRXlkjXfXhK00oT7xNaj6gijqPi9scr66mi3M/1eC96Q/6B58q X-Orig-Path: news.individual.net!news Cancel-Lock: sha1:7U03Vfw8G2ylk9uqxWDiJ4xFe5M= sha1:t9wkwoTaKcx5Lc7vszsSTJo1xVo= X-Face: 2h#||Cd#d%F*NCm59[_6/{1a@jy%; |j>{D~4^gKg(^i%7j0IK?+,/GmW&:CD5fEKb_! Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150380 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45960 Archived-At: Pascal Bourguignon writes: >> >> Aha. OK. You are talking about localised lisp? Maybe I got lost here. > > What else? This is what emacs is. This is not the point. "Localised" can substitute all hard coded "texts" with a call to a translation routine to provide the localised translation. > > >>> Nowadays, with the Internet and the worldwide job market, it's just >>> impossible to translate a programming language. And this is what >>> emacs is. >> >> No. That is NOT what emacs is. eLisp is the programming language. Emacs >> is an infrastructure which supports multiple applications programmed in >> elisp. They can be localised. > > Look, if you asked to localize microemacs or nano, I'd say, no problem > go ahead. But emacs is lisp. We are talking the command names interfaces and help texts - not the function names. e.g you dont see "find-file-at-point" in the menu. No. You find "Open File" or similar.