From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31636: 27.0.50; lockfile syntax searchable from info manual Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 12:20:48 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52c8c394-add3-63c9-a62a-bea85e9d006e@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20180529073311.EEA09102DA@mailuser.nyi.internal> <876036hn2e.fsf@gmail.com> <87tvqqd7rp.fsf@gmail.com> <87r2lufvo9.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2luv28h.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527621557 30818 195.159.176.226 (29 May 2018 19:19:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:19:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Cc: mail@bradyt.com, 31636@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 29 21:19:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNk9D-0007mE-6l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Paul? On the one hand this is low-level detail. On the other, it is user-visible detail, e.g., when I use dired or 'ls' on a directory I'll see the symlinks. So I'd be mildly inclined to see a brief mention in the user manual with details as necessary in the elisp manual. The user manual could say something simple like 'lock files are directory entries whose names begin with ".#"'. If more details are needed, they could be in the elisp manual (e.g., MS-Windows lock names are independent of lock names of other systems).