From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: suggestion: blue default for new face `window-divider' Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:42:39 +0100 Message-ID: <52EB7E1F.6080305@gmx.at> References: <27053922-2ceb-46ec-ae23-06c651270682@default> <87zjmdm04u.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391164975 15090 80.91.229.3 (31 Jan 2014 10:42:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 31 11:43:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W9BYr-0008L5-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:43:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54393 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9BYq-0006fI-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:43:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9BYh-0006ZN-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9BYa-00078m-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:42:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:52881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9BYa-00078X-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.47.63.111] ([62.47.63.111]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M1Wcz-1VFyZc447d-00tUk3 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:42:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zjmdm04u.fsf@web.de> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:h0O7wxijUWMQCewspc7agW1qU3YIEvq0p/RgEI+es+8GXMVH94J XHp/Mqk3kwEO3HS/V3hnSyed5MGbB2XiN/6Ohbt3p5znfbWP5v61UIWhe9eAEvODvUfjvKG AYJ6SLhxrHXxIUdpCt2sMlSeUo+qDRtQwbRZ1dJhsOscc5izNw0lVW4gkSg1PxExQA2GVGZ 1hHDE05S6NM+LRNx+2fug== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169265 Archived-At: >> (I'd also suggest that the default width of window dividers be 2, >> not zero, also to make it more noticeable.) > > Or at least one, so that you get a different cursor when hovering over > that area, and recognize that resizing is possible. > > OTOH, I can understand why the size is 0 when scroll bars are used: It > can happen that you click on the scroll bar by mistake. In my > installation it is especially problematic that the mouse cursor change > is not correct for me: I get the "dragging" cursor in a stripe wider > than the window divider. That makes it very likely to click the scroll > bar by mistake. We should follow general practice here and make the default at least 4 pixels, probably 6. That's what I see on Thunderbird, for example. The value 0 means only that by default dividers are not drawn. martin