From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is intellisense features integration in Emacs technically possible? Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <52DED291.60500@online.de> References: <1390269670.2888.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <83zjmpf80o.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390334407 4151 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2014 20:00:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:00:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 21 21:00:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5hUY-0003qp-HL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:00:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60320 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5hUY-0001JN-7n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47229) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5hUO-00016h-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5hUG-00032X-Lz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:00:00 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:59005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5hUG-00032L-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:59:52 -0500 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4db908e3.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.8.227]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MSTZH-1VuOxa3Ic7-00TXuI; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:59:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83zjmpf80o.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:osNZlMvN9ww0ypzcummXRiZZGAgIgfF/bGRcXMvDzIV FCcQXWTKXcwrxBgud21O7q8tlqwcAuxYQ8k/O+wStBDAuofF5X lxsBydY9Zpft1A/q0jnug0mU2v4xt5ZQHecSlIV1h4Kcu4gUhp cxzzoXosB74k2joYYklP9bw+ecjVRX2tk6u3ke0VJ3gos74RBk 5fiZcsgKimfKDiottxHYsOyuNe9ikfjkpIU9MnAF9Y8E/29MxW RDRng4PUtXEQuONCf5mmUZ/DbMkZJ6q1D/3K8ZS+FE3xeLF96P YCF0m0I+TRJc71Ru/y+YWkb21JItYWItNnjPOov5ffG0fGPYOQ 1N83hrzqCIwpj7vCDvpk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168852 Archived-At: Am 21.01.2014 20:29, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> From: Tom >> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:59:10 +0000 (UTC) >> >> Creating mature and extensive intellisense features is hard work, >> it requires lots of man hours and while it's technically possible to >> implement it in emacs it is unlikely to happen, because emacs lacks >> the developing resources. > > According to this logic something like the rewrite of the display > engine that happened between Emacs 20 and Emacs 21, or bidirectional > editing support for Emacs 24 would never have happened. But it did. > Each one of these took many man-months of work. > > Look at the amount of changes that get committed every day to the > Emacs repository, and try to estimate the effort that goes into that. > Sometimes I wish I had such resources at my disposal on my daytime > job. > > I think the shortage is not in development resources, but in motivated > individuals who'd sit down and do the job, and lobby others to come on > board and help. Volunteers are welcome. > You are missing the point. Bidirection is at the core of any editor - thanks a lot BTW. Intellisense features must come from accessing the programming languages itself.