From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: About the :distant-foreground face attribute Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <52D64426.60801@swipnet.se> References: <87bnzo9cja.fsf@gnu.org> <59B7E7FC-48D0-4737-B1BB-FFAC5BA9E07A@swipnet.se> <874n5f3162.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvozf86g.fsf@gnu.org> <87r48javwe.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnzmfjxe.fsf@gnu.org> <52D3E689.6050902@dancol.org> <8E16225F-53EF-498A-AB35-66EB9B33B859@swipnet.se> <52D43360.6050605@dancol.org> <9BD01B88-AF13-44DD-8DBE-4598BAC136DD@swipnet.se> <52D45C73.6090906@dancol.org> <52D47289.2020700@dancol.org> <52D4A23E.4030802@dancol.org> <2798eddb-c6c7-4b73-8bd0-e4bd72f3405e@default> <52D63DAB.1070506@swipnet.se> <52D63E58.8080408@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389773886 5629 80.91.229.3 (15 Jan 2014 08:18:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:18:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 15 09:18:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Lfs-0001XW-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:18:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52852 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Lfr-0005fA-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:18:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Lfg-0005TU-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:18:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3LfY-0005g2-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:17:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailfe05.swip.net ([212.247.154.129]:49525 helo=swip.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3LfY-0005fl-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:17:48 -0500 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Original-Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe05.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 464316218 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:17:45 +0100 Original-Received: from jdvpro.hq.ismobile.com (unknown [176.57.193.190]) (Authenticated sender: jhd) by hosdjarv.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 976791A036D for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:17:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: <52D63E58.8080408@dancol.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 212.247.154.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168444 Archived-At: Hello. Daniel Colascione skrev 2014-01-15 08:52: > On 01/14/2014 11:50 PM, Jan D. wrote: >> As you note, the lack of contrast is a general problem for all cases >> when more than one face can be applied. But no user has been >> sufficiently annoyed to file a bug report except for the selection >> case, so it has been an ignored/unknown problem. In hindsight, I kind >> of regret trying to fix this and thus put focus on the issue. >> I should have done as has been done in the past, just ignore the whole >> issue. > > Yuri is right. We should do more to try to fix this issue. I'm still at > a loss as to why you and Drew are so adamantly opposed to generating > colors. Just for the case when a configured color is available, i.e. when system selection fore- and background color exists we should not be generating any one of them as a substitute. And I think a defined color is always preferrable to a generated. But if no suitable defined color exists, generated is better than unreadable text. Jan D.