From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] About the :distant-foreground face attribute Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:25:39 -0800 Message-ID: <52D60DC3.8010803@dancol.org> References: <87bnzo9cja.fsf@gnu.org> <59B7E7FC-48D0-4737-B1BB-FFAC5BA9E07A@swipnet.se> <874n5f3162.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvozf86g.fsf@gnu.org> <87r48javwe.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnzmfjxe.fsf@gnu.org> <52D3E689.6050902@dancol.org> <8E16225F-53EF-498A-AB35-66EB9B33B859@swipnet.se> <52D43360.6050605@dancol.org> <9BD01B88-AF13-44DD-8DBE-4598BAC136DD@swipnet.se> <52D45C73.6090906@dancol.org> <52D4EBA9.8050802@swipnet.se> <52D4F2C2.8080800@dancol.org> <52D504A7.80104@swipnet.se> <52D514FF.7010404@dancol.org> <52D52312.6070106@swipnet.se> <52D58632.3010106@dancol.org> <381DEBDC-71D8-4FAC-BA55-897FEC73A2FC@swipnet.se> <52D5A072.5010508@dancol.org> <064CFFB5-6E50-40D5-B2CB-2BECC656D93F@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389759949 400 80.91.229.3 (15 Jan 2014 04:25:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 04:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 15 05:25:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I39-00070y-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:25:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52037 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I39-0007is-HK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:25:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I35-0007fa-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:25:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I35-00012J-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:25:51 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:59180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I32-00011o-DK; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:25:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=HTVMhX/bW1BFqY624XoJsoKcCmCbPpp2lv+yL09SQTc=; b=SjSdEi6qJJVPGzlU3GEbVnLfGB2XdQSf695DRgyQmbyG8Gz0AYwziwCPMjSOJawY1vkHwLqfh3pOyjbX992clisdqcC5u3z/3mYgtVhU3LcOUT0ib3mtcoiJePTpGI8VD9rtsWgl8LVzbqb/fXAIloPFayAeV+ivbHV4ZTGkz+Msf+7XuACTMPfvoJGDXNnQphxeO9X6gg2hZ89/01ybzeMRTqZmm0Q4eTjP0qXPi94HedpSJzRypqxGsZ8OmMXqRvtQjYsBTOtTnLwmdDQJu/qS3PmD9JBab//CuhzhzacnznRTuPfObQkD19S+Q9L+5Nu7zmKbhapSdRdMVGyrmw==; Original-Received: from [2601:8:b200:217:2b5:6dff:fe05:12e5] by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W3I30-0003ZH-C3; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:25:46 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168423 Archived-At: On 01/14/2014 08:22 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Well, my position is not to revert, so by doing that nobody is happy. >> Why is that good? Anyway, as I said before, this is Stefans call. >> But I always assumed we are talking post-release here as your code >> clearly don't belong in a feature freeze. Again, Stefans call. > > In the short term, indeed, Daniel's patch is too new for 24.4. > But in the longer term, I like the idea of being able to write Elisp > code to fine-tune the colors. > > So the :distant-foreground might not be useful after 24.4. > > IOW, if we keep it for 24.4, I think we should hide it so we can remove > it later. Not sure how to do that, tho. > > What do you guys think? Right. There's a dilemma here --- that's why I'm suggesting we should revert to 24.3 behavior and, for the next release, implement the functionality in a more general way. I don't think the original bug is a release blocker.