From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Witness computation - minor breakage in the build system Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:51:14 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52D31C62.1050303@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20140112043735.C0A2E380523@snark.thyrsus.com> <52D21EFA.1010905@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppnx8a81.fsf@gnu.org> <52D2EB66.7060005@cs.ucla.edu> <20140112194348.GB16840@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389567103 8237 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2014 22:51:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 22:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 12 23:51:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Tsi-0001K1-Fx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:51:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Tsi-0004tR-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:51:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45769) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2TsY-0004t7-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:51:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2TsR-0004il-CI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:51:38 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:55524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2TsJ-0004RH-36; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB3139E8013; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:51:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kzRrTHFHkjwz; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:51:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB57039E8008; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:51:14 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168257 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > You mean all of the lisp/**/*.el files? Bad idea: > - it would fail to take into account new .el files (not a big deal, but > still: we're still in the "best effort" category). That's a problem with the current approach too, no? If I create an .el file, it's ignored -- unless I futz with the repository too. So this sounds like more of a 'make bootstrap'ish issue to me. However, if it turns into a real problem in ordinary development we can add a dependency on the lisp/** directories as well as on the .el files. > - it would cause re-dumping everytime you change a .el file, even tho in > 99% of the cases the resulting loaddefs.el is the same. That shouldn't be a problem. Undumping should depend on the witness file, not on the .el files directly; and the witness shouldn't change unless one of the autoloads actually changed.