From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16402: 24.3.50; Document nadvice.el stuff in Elisp manual before Emacs 24.4 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:39:33 -0800 Message-ID: <52CF6B75.5040206@dancol.org> References: <86r48glgbt.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389325212 7144 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 03:40:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:40:12 +0000 (UTC) To: 16402@debbugs.gnu.org, Andy Moreton Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 04:40:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1SxE-0007Kl-H2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:40:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55137 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1SxE-0005vF-6Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:40:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Sx6-0005sD-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Sx1-0006aI-Ki for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:40:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Sx1-0006Zx-Eq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:40:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Sx0-0005dg-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:40:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Colascione Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16402.138932518721641 (code B ref 16402); Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2014 03:39:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Swk-0005cz-Pr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:39:47 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:55839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Swh-0005cp-Cz for 16402@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:39:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=Z7jyAMmD3hedUalcWE9IOyAY6n6TtvwlblIA2eHaYZE=; b=B52PAgFh0xyI557vV1CPCd6NkR8SKc/k5ckFkD4RjXzTqNDt3jJanQyRKM9eE7JhgwyRqqAk3Tjt+4xZy1u9SVWyG4vjTzJHHcQ1e/IJm9jFGXNjNifvaOqn/x7soPaHDW52iyjqowH9/miPX5W028JY3LUon7fJFjlvEf9wv7qRWagl7HSSn6ayq7jOC+cN0exMoqGvWH8rI+YADbGAI34L9ZsYpYjH5xL6ffmpLp8ZQ+bnQ53UUu+38K92DlPPXwPczcSJ3JMSSrK2W2Wi9pYRc8xQOxH/v6baPZ36jnbTPgFQBZkkS553WNN2unKuNn3PbSO7bAl3Y8NlelJ93w==; Original-Received: from [2620:0:1cfe:99::7] by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Swf-0008RE-LI; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:39:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83206 Archived-At: On 01/09/2014 07:28 PM, Leo Liu wrote: > On 2014-01-10 10:29 +0800, Andy Moreton wrote: >> As the author of nadvice.el, I would have thought that it was incumbent >> upon you to provide adequate documentation. A rationale to explain why >> the existing advice package needs changing would also be helpful. > > In Stefan's defence this is him saying help me out. I am sure as the > maintainer of emacs he has plenty in his plate that some lower-priority > tasks may have to fall in others hands ;) It'd be easier to document nadvice if there were a clear reason for it to exist. Regular advice works fine and has for a long time. It's very well documented has many useful features. It integrates with help. It supports various interactive commands. I have no plans to use nadvice myself any time soon and oppose deprecating regular advice.