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* Emacs completion matches selection UI
@ 2013-11-18 16:13 Ted Zlatanov
  2013-11-18 20:00 ` Bozhidar Batsov
  2013-11-19 17:33 ` Sebastian Wiesner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 258+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-11-18 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

In "(emacs.info) Completion Commands" there is help for using the
rudimentary buffer to select completion matches.  I was struck by how
hard to use this was, compared to more recent packages like these:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AutoComplete
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CompanyMode

Is there any chance the default Emacs appearance for selecting
completion matches can be improved (not necessarily by default) for
24.4?  I would help with this but don't know what's "state of the art"
and if there's already work in this direction.

Thanks
Ted




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* Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI
@ 2013-12-30 20:35 Barry OReilly
  2014-01-01 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 258+ messages in thread
From: Barry OReilly @ 2013-12-30 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

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Stefan:
> Ah, right, the conflict is in the meaning of the TAB key.
> There are two issues there:
> 1- the fact that there's no standard way to *extend* the meaning of
>    TAB, so autocomplete and yasnippet may both *redefine* the key instead.
> 2- even if the two manage to redefine TAB "at the same time", the
>    resulting behavior may prove too DWIMish.

Stefan:
> Yes.  We should make it easier to extend indent-for-tab-command.

It would be good to clarify whether the fallback mechanism should be
for the key sequence or the command. That is: should calling the
command via M-x cause the fallback behavior?

I suspect what these commands want is to indicate that the search in
active keymaps should continue. The problem with using the command's
return is that determining whether to fall back risks side effects.
key-binding and other functions might require no side effects. A
possible idea is to allow the interactive spec to specify Lisp code
that evaluates to whether to fall back or not. It would probably make
sense to pass that non nil result to the command as an argument if it
is called. If nil, then the search through active keymaps would
continue.

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2013-11-18 16:13 Emacs completion matches selection UI Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-18 20:00 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-18 20:54   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-18 21:15   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-19  0:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-19  9:52       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-19 13:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-19 14:00           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-19 14:58             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-19 17:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-19 21:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-20  0:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20  1:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-20  3:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20 17:52                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-20 19:10                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20 20:00                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-20 15:57                     ` Josh
2013-11-21  0:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-21  3:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22  0:10                           ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-22  7:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 12:33                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-25 13:28                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-25 15:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-16 15:17                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-16 18:35                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-16 22:15                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-17  2:10                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-17 10:49                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-17 18:29                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-17 20:59                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18  1:58                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-18  3:09                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18  4:47                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-18 14:43                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18 15:51                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 16:38                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18 17:05                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 17:18                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18 17:37                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-18 19:05                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-18 21:11                                                               ` chad
2013-12-19  3:40                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-19 15:49                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-19 17:30                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-19 18:44                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-19 21:44                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-20  1:15                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-20  3:06                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-20  3:08                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-20 11:49                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-20 13:18                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-20 14:59                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-22  1:45                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22  2:29                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-22 11:07                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 16:07                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-22 22:50                                                                                             ` enabling company-capf support in cfengine.el (was: Emacs completion matches selection UI) Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-23  0:17                                                                                               ` enabling company-capf support in cfengine.el Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-23  1:11                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-23  1:32                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-16 13:12                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-16 16:06                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-16 17:39                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-17 13:04                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-18 14:13                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-19  2:37                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-19 16:44                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-19 20:19                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-19 20:44                                                                                                                 ` David Engster
2014-01-20  0:13                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-20  2:14                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-20  2:39                                                                                                                     ` John Yates
2014-01-20  3:22                                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-20  7:10                                                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-01-20 14:22                                                                                                                         ` John Yates
2014-01-20 14:55                                                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-20 15:09                                                                                                                           ` clang vs free software (was: enabling company-capf support in cfengine.el) Stefan Monnier
2014-01-20 19:47                                                                                                                             ` clang vs free software David Engster
2014-01-21 14:42                                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-21 15:02                                                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-21 15:20                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-22 15:31                                                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-22 17:24                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-21 15:34                                                                                                                                 ` John Yates
2014-01-21 16:00                                                                                                                                   ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-21 16:25                                                                                                                                     ` joakim
2014-01-21 16:34                                                                                                                                       ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-21 16:38                                                                                                                                         ` joakim
2014-01-21 18:50                                                                                                                                           ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-21 18:00                                                                                                                                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-21 18:44                                                                                                                                           ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-23 10:55                                                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-23 11:01                                                                                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-01-23 14:26                                                                                                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2014-01-25 23:02                                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-25 23:28                                                                                                                                           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-26  1:35                                                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-26  6:45                                                                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 12:13                                                                                                                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-26 12:35                                                                                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-26 14:45                                                                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 20:06                                                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-26 20:06                                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-26 10:22                                                                                                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2014-01-26 11:12                                                                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 12:36                                                                                                                                               ` Helmut Eller
2014-01-26 14:54                                                                                                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 20:06                                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-26 15:12                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-26 15:15                                                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-26 15:35                                                                                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 15:46                                                                                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-23 16:35                                                                                                                                       ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-23 18:04                                                                                                                                         ` David Engster
2014-01-22  2:06                                                                                                                                 ` unic0rn
2014-01-20 15:57                                                                                                                           ` enabling company-capf support in cfengine.el Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-20  3:32                                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-20 13:59                                                                                                                         ` John Yates
2014-01-20 14:30                                                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-20 17:01                                                                                                                             ` John Yates
2014-01-20  2:17                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-19 16:54                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-19 20:21                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-19 23:57                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-20  2:20                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-20  2:33                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-20 13:41                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23  1:36                                                                                             ` Emacs completion matches selection UI Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23  2:12                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-23 13:33                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-20  1:19                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-20  1:17                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-20 14:32                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-20 15:54                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-21  3:32                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-21  4:58                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-22  2:05                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 23:15                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-23  1:59                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 12:28                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-23 13:42                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 14:52                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-30 20:47                                                                                     ` Toby Cubitt
2013-12-31  0:20                                                                                       ` Leo Liu
2013-12-31  7:48                                                                                         ` joakim
2013-12-31 14:30                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-31 15:52                                                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2013-12-31 17:45                                                                                           ` joakim
2014-01-02 18:54                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-02 18:10                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 17:49                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 19:36                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  0:48                                                                                               ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-04  3:45                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  4:47                                                                                                   ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-06 23:38                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07  3:57                                                                                                   ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-04  9:21                                                                                               ` João Távora
2014-01-06 23:21                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-02 20:20                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-02 22:58                                                                                             ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03  2:40                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 14:30                                                                                                 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03 16:23                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-03 16:48                                                                                                     ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03 19:32                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 22:06                                                                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-04  3:39                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  4:00                                                                                                             ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03 16:35                                                                                               ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03 17:46                                                                                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-04  2:39                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-04  3:54                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05  4:08                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-05 16:04                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  4:25                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-06  5:25                                                                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-06  2:39                                                                                                 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-06  4:03                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  5:35                                                                                                     ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-06  5:55                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-06 14:47                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 15:54                                                                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-06 20:53                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 23:45                                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-06  7:36                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-06 15:51                                                                                                     ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-07  0:17                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-07  3:32                                                                                                         ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-07 23:23                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-08  2:58                                                                                                             ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-08  3:38                                                                                                               ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-08  3:47                                                                                                                 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-08  9:27                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08 15:37                                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08  4:49                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 15:33                                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 16:11                                                                                                                   ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-09  7:12                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-23 13:45                                                                               ` John Yates
2013-12-23 16:02                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-24  2:47                                                                                   ` John Yates
2013-12-28 14:02                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-28 16:43                                                                                       ` John Yates
2013-12-30 12:55                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-30 16:32                                                                                           ` João Távora
2014-01-04 23:02                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05  2:13                                                                                               ` João Távora
2014-01-05 16:11                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 23:48                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07  3:15                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 16:13                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07 17:18                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2014-01-07 18:10                                                                                                         ` Josh
2014-01-07 19:42                                                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-08  3:54                                                                                                             ` Josh
2014-01-07  3:16                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 16:12                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-28 15:59                                                                                     ` João Távora
2013-12-28 17:00                                                                                       ` John Yates
2013-12-28 17:40                                                                                         ` Josh
2013-12-19  4:53                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-19  5:45                                                                   ` chad
2013-12-19  7:03                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-19  7:59                                                                       ` Aaron Ecay
2013-12-19 15:29                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-19 17:41                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-19 18:46                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-20  0:53                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-19  6:23                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-19 16:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-21 10:17               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-21 16:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22  5:38                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-22 15:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 10:03                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-19 13:48       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-19 18:03         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20  0:10         ` Gregor Zattler
2013-11-20  1:25           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-20 17:59             ` John Yates
2013-11-19  0:47     ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-19 11:18       ` Tom
2013-11-19 14:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20  0:45           ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-20  7:34             ` martin rudalics
2013-11-20  7:50               ` Tom
2013-11-21  0:45               ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-21  7:41                 ` martin rudalics
2013-11-22  0:18                   ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-22 10:26                     ` martin rudalics
2013-11-19 19:44       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-20  7:39         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-11-19 17:33 ` Sebastian Wiesner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-30 20:35 Barry OReilly
2014-01-01 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier

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