From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Davis Herring Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:24:35 -0700 Organization: XCP-1 Message-ID: <52A09AB3.3040707@lanl.gov> References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386257119 20492 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 15:25:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 16:25:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Voanp-0002pe-SA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:25:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54061 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voanp-0001T2-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:25:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56501) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoanL-0000hw-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:24:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoanD-000732-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:24:51 -0500 Original-Received: from proofpoint4.lanl.gov ([204.121.3.52]:48194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoanC-00072j-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:24:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailgate4.lanl.gov (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rB5FOZ8X025711; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:24:37 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61D8B82DBE; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:24:35 -0700 (MST) X-NIE-2-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailrelay2.lanl.gov Original-Received: from [128.165.123.233] (xray-r09.lanl.gov [128.165.123.233]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F7CB82DC1; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:24:35 -0700 (MST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110717 Lanikai/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.72, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-12-05_05:2013-12-05, 2013-12-05, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 204.121.3.52 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166121 Archived-At: > So in order to enable something by default, we need a higher standard > of robustness. Because its data is semi-permanent for many users and thus more valuable, I implemented such robustness for desktop.el several years ago. It seems to me that, with these several similar packages (and yet more written by third parties), we probably want to have a flag that says "this Emacs is the blessed historian" that, via a lock file, is set for at most (usually, exactly) one Emacs process at a time. (Desktop actually supports multiple desktop files, so perhaps it should really be that each Emacs is the historian for a directory (under which these various histories are stored) or for none.) Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.