From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:06:11 +0100 Message-ID: <52986713.6080704@online.de> References: <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83d2lrczi7.fsf@gnu.org> <8338mmcsd9.fsf@gnu.org> <83txf1blf2.fsf@gnu.org> <87txf133yd.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83r4a5bj5x.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwktdy6r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83iovhb0ez.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3fxdpmg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837gbwbcsx.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2lnevq7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ob57rlkb.fsf_-_@informatimago.com> <35e892b1-73b8-4ca2-9317-7eb83e7223e5@default> <464a688e-b7a5-4f6b-84b4-d7cd42107c8d@default> <87li074mxc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385719408 15429 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 10:03:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:03:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 11:03:31 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmKv5-0000ip-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:03:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46369 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmKv4-0005np-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmKuv-0005mh-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmKuk-0006Xj-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:64348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmKuk-0006Vj-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4dbc7fa4.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.127.164]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LeyNP-1VHO571P9r-00qTOf; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:03:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: <87li074mxc.fsf@gmail.com> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:1hGNaCzY+538btljEOyGCGx5OyrVGTCkuwy4LrtRNWb m1QghkaTs1mym/04GnqVhFmynanddE6z/gAOEndfYB7c44raTP TS8ZY/9twUQ0oXfoQ5Wm0NOvlwYsoyJ0xYRtzp48M7nopjGziY KadLSz1vGHIrKj5MdlMW4pP0QleD5Q3prpCHV1SPommPOsk9Pe iCjZ8aopNn9qFXwMur/5yqPTXva+7ze99OS6z+7eJmG0KldDhy VfditPoHULbe+qzl4KoRseWWD2uJbFXu56NsgGNqw5IuSKWdQX ZsVEup196zZlcpGM4ZfFpAFhuAQu7/5pOEPZCRG5aGotHzbkCm nJ6lf1geoV4lI4wxuiZQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165864 Archived-At: [ ... ] > > Org emphasis markers are un-satisfactory > ======================================== > > Org - like any other markup format - imposes itself on the user. (i.e., > it caters to the lowest common denominator.) > > Unfortuanately, there are people who want slightly more than the lowest > common denominator. There have been numerous threads in the past, where > Org (and hence Emacs in general, so to speak) is KNOWN to be > unsatisfactory and getting in the way of what the user wants to do. > Right. Another reason why the stuff needs to be abstracted from org-mode.