From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Davis Herring Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:26:48 -0700 Organization: XCP-1 Message-ID: <528F77B8.9090602@lanl.gov> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87iovo4caz.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <877gc14vzs.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <878uwhxnqe.fsf@informatimago.com> <83txf4cw9z.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385134028 10097 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2013 15:27:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 16:27:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsdT-0005Nb-Kv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:27:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsdT-0003y6-8F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsdJ-0003xz-Aj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsdB-0002CB-8c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:27:01 -0500 Original-Received: from proofpoint5.lanl.gov ([204.121.3.53]:46686) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsdB-0002By-1P; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:26:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailgate5.lanl.gov (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rAMFQmSS023590; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:26:48 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD5B1350BBC; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:26:48 -0700 (MST) X-NIE-2-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailrelay1.lanl.gov Original-Received: from [128.165.123.145] (xray-r10.lanl.gov [128.165.123.145]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE981350BB5; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:26:48 -0700 (MST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110717 Lanikai/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: <83txf4cw9z.fsf@gnu.org> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-11-22_05:2013-11-22, 2013-11-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 204.121.3.53 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165566 Archived-At: >> - define a page size + page margins for the document. > > IMO, this is more important for printing. For display, it's enough to > start with the locale's defaults. If you're not going to allow them to be changed, you need to not paginate in the display at all, to avoid misleading the user into making adjustments that are unnecessary/wrong with their (eventual) print settings. >> - define styles, apply styles to tags. > > Isn't a "style" just another word for a "face"? No, because it can include things like paragraph indentation and language choice (for spell check). > The leading word processors have this feature, so we should have that > as well. It doesn't have to be another window, though: we could show > the meta-data and control codes as part of the text. This is approximately what WordPerfect does when using "Display Codes". Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.