From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: <528B0E8A.20508@online.de> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k3g5o5s3.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384844778 8944 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2013 07:06:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 08:06:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VifOA-0003CP-6W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47494 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VifO9-0000T7-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VifNz-0000Sr-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VifNr-00022C-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:06:11 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:50097) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VifNr-000226-Ls; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4dba0031.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.0.49]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MBX6o-1Vs33P39Gw-00Ankv; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:06:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:evOAoI7+uTjkzecLQ9GPVfCS26tZNw+diV/szgSWKTj iLhBuT/phLjkNIw70hNNEXF+PiVq/hRtuGoCSUg47+VucmFseZ Lqg7it1YBNnZa/ZY0rRh6VJruGls5T1PtqZEYSzslbeJT93NTw c25rvgB7lXhC1b7+1bcnLD/h0jmCOaU9HX5PKeRNxeh4zaIZPB JiIL3cir5xV5NLqJvQIdsydd7ZUtyxAf/Zh4iulpmgDHayIZZm 4mhH0LgiUPl4xEjJA9v0OlBhOXJMo4Aabp/h2j1typG2cgOq+r b1XEQcNIU6TBAnbm4bA15b1zMAM9N+Ay0cqOh1c8FAGHMKRg2E XEJzxieYTZevcA+ZLpcg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165356 Archived-At: Am 19.11.2013 07:01, schrieb Richard Stallman: > [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider > [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, > [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > > You really want GNU Emacs to produce files replete with the metadata > that screws that very same file up at some later date? > > That is a strange assumption to make. > > Anyway, what I'd do today is edit it with LibreOffice > and wish it were Emacs. > Even plain text edits, formatting etc. are much faster with Emacs than you could do with LibreOffice. Either to start from LaTex, which takes the need of formatting largely, or from org-mode. Also edits are much better to read from Emacs, as the formatting is separated. Plain text mode, that's right, doesn't deliver things it could nowadays. Here it's to combine the tools written already, ODF-storage etc. Best, Andreas