From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:16:46 -0800 Message-ID: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384687018 31085 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2013 11:16:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 11:16:58 +0000 (UTC) To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 12:17:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0Lf-0006dg-G5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:17:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38615 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0Le-0002kB-VZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0LX-0002k1-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:17:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0LR-0006vd-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:16:55 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:46177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0LQ-0006vX-W2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:16:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=M0wgaQEAt0vQim67QTL5Gj/A1dBMyl3gQ9aZ0W1yn+M=; b=lqvTHacivqHh8ZE1ZVT6KoZbz13vJjJ3sBWU7KwnN/QlN73igOYdJuSLYpwuFngozoP+BURGIsRRvrKHAPeQ/H5aXpMFG3+Sb0Ab8q4MZhozoVfPGreO8p/29oAUXNWaTwx/n5Ep+OXXnxk016iKWvMxh5d/7yBCyZsrpQPQMlIm3xDGu5lqAEUdkfWeKMbh6+PyXMjI1xyOLVxPO0C+1uThySEs7H5KbQII0V9sd8OBci6WkEcinh0B3va6nbgMZdVfJYFO13CbiFSqwJZRC0RGVO0mQZ/lpR0XyTjefCszSJVFtOO6fPbgHYMZk3/zb0HiK0+RFgb7Q5mj4OyVjg==; Original-Received: from c-76-22-66-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.22.66.162] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi0LP-000767-VT; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:16:48 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165293 Archived-At: On 11/16/2013 11:28 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > 25 years ago I hoped we would extend Emacs to do WYSIWG word > processing. That is why we added text properties and variable width > fonts. However, more features are still needed to achieve this. Text properties are very useful on their own. > Could people please start working on the features that are needed? I don't think that would be a productive use limited resources. Emacs' feature set is either already at a place suitable for "word processing" or astronomically distant depending on how you think about the problem: Emacs already works _very_ well for document preparation using auctex, nxml-mode, and so on. LibreOffice already covers the more conventional WYSIWYG space and is free software.