From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jarek Czekalski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15670: 24.3; dummy user-errors on info nodes without prev/next nodes Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:15:55 +0200 Message-ID: <5266262B.3040308@poczta.onet.pl> References: <526548F4.3040601@poczta.onet.pl> <87y55mayta.fsf@web.de> <87zjq17t6l.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382426238 13002 80.91.229.3 (22 Oct 2013 07:17:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15670@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 22 09:17:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWDN-0007lF-TJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:17:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43329 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWDN-0001hm-FM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53789) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWDF-0001gn-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWD9-0008Dd-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWD9-0008DY-3l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWD8-0001Go-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jarek Czekalski Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15670.13824262054852 (code B ref 15670); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2013 07:16:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWCq-0001GB-Dm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:16:44 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpo15.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.142.146]:39867) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYWCn-0001Fu-4B for 15670@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.17.9] (cj.e-siemianowice.pl [95.215.234.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl) by smtp.poczta.onet.pl (Onet) with ESMTPSA id 3d3mGT0SbYzZCgZ0; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:16:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=poczta.onet.pl; s=2011; t=1382426166; bh=4Rsr8gQ3VFORGm/b9dzik/G14dCNVmBOq90Qt8bSV8Y=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=niBVB7uvE3mZn3MjGe29LcT1zz3dEZdUAl6ZlsDxvUtzXcL/5rMGnopQoCmmXxT2S zp/GIHaUNOMkZ8z8Q7EmDTUIIMi9I4iKDEJt21uJjpNQh7X0xoHZWCcIg24Tz5yUab QZ6VSvZFOSzrzGbZewyKNWYGD00crhYHHKxPG2nE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: <87zjq17t6l.fsf@web.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79488 Archived-At: W dniu 2013-10-22 07:47, Michael Heerdegen pisze: > I mean, emacsspeak does things like advising `signal' and `error'. > I guess this is the point. Emacspeak doesn't respect the rules of error handling. Whether it can do its job in a cleaner way - I don't know yet. But I'm convinced that there is no bug in Emacs, because the user-error is caught and should not see the surface. I also know how to fix Emacspeak in the way it was intended to work. Please close the ticket. Sorry for bothering you. As an analogy in other languages we can code: try { c = a / b; } catch (DivisionByZero) { c = -1; } That's fine. If someone wants to intercept all the DivisionByZero exceptions, which possibly own dedicated error handlers - they do wrong thing. Thanks Jarek