From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing. Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:28:22 +0200 Message-ID: <525D8946.4070406@gmx.at> References: <20131013101325.GA2621@acm.acm> <20131013140931.GC2621@acm.acm> <20131013172841.GA2498@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381861725 21944 80.91.229.3 (15 Oct 2013 18:28:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 15 20:28:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VW9MQ-0007iG-0c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:28:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW9MP-00011z-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW9MF-0000uB-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW9M7-0000Cu-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:50345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VW9M7-0000Co-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.47.51.145] ([62.47.51.145]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MYwyp-1VJLZt2Kwd-00Vgqm for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:28:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20131013172841.GA2498@acm.acm> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ml6L7QDlZg8+0tSaXS7JHycp+hXsOvo51ylp3DO4ELmQXUkaB/t 5q9nyZMrUeqOKEhj6gj2C+A5k79U62Eo1M6ZIMfgY2d6RlT8BmL730RaJyH0t6KFopQsZ7m 9ohylhCRvOXLYfrFIBdCUuwK9nk66LNWjvQYN0mVhcitmuLld2WpHkb3y5X1hzNIb90BZ43 gEoBULvPZzDkXR/jr0Mtg== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164225 Archived-At: > And people calling `newline' do not simply want a \n. They want > abbreviations to be processed, they want auto-fill to be run, trailing > space to be removed from otherwise blank lines, and so on. What they > _don't_ want is indentation inserted on the new line. What I want is RET to always indent the new line. And when I'm at the beginning of a line I want that RET opens a new line here and indents it. And that's why I'm hopelessly lost when I have to work with emacs -Q. martin