From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:24:52 +0200 Message-ID: <52566454.7060705@easy-emacs.de> References: <87pprkbodk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <5d0ea74d-527c-4c19-a9d6-596bec4a4c6b@googlegroups.com> <878uy2b59p.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <9c485a2d-1e2a-4c38-b04a-db69db9b5bc2@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381393376 14525 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2013 08:22:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:22:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 10 10:22:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUBWM-0006hO-A5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:22:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45605 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUBWL-0003FP-U5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:22:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUBW3-00039l-IQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUBVw-0005f7-5K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:64561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUBVv-0005eq-RH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4dba3778.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.55.120]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCqAt-1Vcfht0YyJ-009guU; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:22:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 In-Reply-To: <9c485a2d-1e2a-4c38-b04a-db69db9b5bc2@googlegroups.com> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:nyn0mLS8et3K0Yt3ol/le/9TkS3rBZ3KJeVXsPUSipW njzzEZzTQV+jxWujuY+IFDhISsoRVsO/TPkMs12sezAH7W0Ic2 UDPz+wV301GZdoemqNZK6zeBRUVmoc+M4df4AfZ+H1pxwWBdM5 A0jBll7tgEd8GWG/8p1gYgjEgszZSq7t7JGd2AxmB8ZmzOx+Vu FW2aVL2faQ2fFsT1MtEJhEdiOfNzMH79sEYqm4jMrNZGp0kLS+ B8TPdJSuaNihssUvkB6dZfjb6SbCkWOM//ZK2Ku7SGmIp9ddXO vRDwZKHGZVnhIidwUQRX5SOzL6CvfSkyoqrDoNKyPHFsqgpUF1 b1M6XcD5Bg8G5ubdbuBx5glKl6+brFRQFw6QLaqPO X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93907 Archived-At: Am 10.10.2013 07:25, schrieb Rustom Mody: > On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:57:48 AM UTC+5:30, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> Emanuel Berg [2013-10-09 21:41:45 +02:00] wrote: >> >> >>> Evans Winner writes: >>>> Is it [Emacs] less popular than vi? That's hard to believe. >>> >>> Yeah, I don't believe that either. >> >> >> That's hard to measure. One way for estimating popularity is Debian's >> automatic popularity contest. >> >> http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=emacsen-common%2Cvim-common&show_vote=on&want_legend=on&from_date=&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 > > Thanks for that picture. > It confirms my personal hunchy feel that 20 years ago emacs-vi were kind of neck to neck; whereas today emacs is increasingly in the category: "Whazzat??" for young programmers. > Maybe the story of bazaar versus git tells something for this case too?