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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Declaring a local dynamic variable?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:32:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <523D9FFA.7080501@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <barmar-6F43FF.07311021092013@news.eternal-september.org>

Am 21.09.2013 13:31, schrieb Barry Margolin:
> In article <mailman.2622.1379742443.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
>   Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 20.09.2013 22:59, schrieb Barry Margolin:
>>> In article <mailman.2578.1379694764.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
>>>    Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 20.09.2013 17:10, schrieb Barry Margolin:
>>>>> In article <mailman.2569.1379688787.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
>>>>>     Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 20.09.2013 14:30, schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>>>>>>> If I purposefully use a local dynamic variable as in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use (defvar my-counter) at the file's top-level to indicate that this
>>>>>>> variable is used in a way that relies on dynamic scoping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A need to write code just to silence compiler warnings?
>>>>>> Emacs could do better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other than "code", what would you suggest?
>>>>
>>>> In the precise case: just drop that warning.
>>>>
>>>> In a wider sense, IMO a modular approach is better.
>>>> Restrict compiler warnings to obvious errors, don't mix style questions in.
>>>
>>> This isn't a style warning. Often the reason is mistyping a local
>>> variable name.
>>>
>>> (let ((foobar ...))
>>>      ...
>>>      (blah fobar)
>>>      ...)
>>>
>>
>> This is another case. IIUC there was nothing wrong with the OP's example.
>
> But how is the compiler supposed to know the difference?

A code-checker might look up, if a variable is defined.
If our eyes may notice the difference, why a checker should not?

  Either it
> always warns, and generate false positives when you compile the user of
> a variable before loading the defvar, or never warns and there are false
> negatives when the user makes a typo.
>
> In this case, false positives are the better option, since you can
> easily silence them by adding a defvar. If the warning were removed,
> there's no way to get the warning when you actually do make a typo.
>

Unfortunatly it's not the only occassion. Compiler message is cluttered with false positives that way.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-21 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-20  9:52 Declaring a local dynamic variable? Joost Kremers
2013-09-20 12:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-20 14:54   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2569.1379688787.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-20 15:10     ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-20 16:34       ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2578.1379694764.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-20 20:59         ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-21  5:49           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2622.1379742443.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-21 11:31             ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-21 13:32               ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2638.1379770251.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-22  3:49                 ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-23 16:26             ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-23 21:17               ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-23 22:14                 ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-24  0:03                   ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-25  8:58                     ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-23 16:19           ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-22 17:11 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-23 16:17   ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-24 21:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-02 23:56   ` WJ
2013-11-03  1:42   ` WJ
     [not found] ` <mailman.2566.1379680283.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-23 16:11   ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-24 21:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-25  5:52       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-25  7:24         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-25  8:43       ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-25 12:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 16:54           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3886.1381596756.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-12 21:25             ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-10-13  8:12               ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-13 13:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 17:41                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-13 19:56                     ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2843.1380112007.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-25 15:46           ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-25 18:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-27  9:53               ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-27 13:15                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2982.1380275511.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-27 14:31                 ` Barry Margolin
2013-09-27 18:48                   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3016.1380307597.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-27 20:18                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-27 23:57                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-28  6:20                       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-28  6:24                         ` W. Greenhouse
2013-09-28  6:50                           ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-28  7:21                             ` W. Greenhouse
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2873.1380135245.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26  0:06               ` Barry Margolin

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