From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Vollmar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: insert umlaut Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:01:48 +0200 Message-ID: <52216AC6-1558-413F-8EF1-58931CD28AD6@nf.mpg.de> References: <03BA975F-E950-4B72-A2E5-F45F98504DA8@nf.mpg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-54--744118536; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276063388 25019 80.91.229.12 (9 Jun 2010 06:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Kevin Rodgers Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 09 08:03:07 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMENW-0006bD-5u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:03:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OMENV-0003Jy-BE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53395 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OMEMO-0003Hb-Dd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMEMJ-0004lK-CY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.nf.mpg.de ([134.107.209.50]:57883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMEMJ-0004l4-22 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:01:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] by mail.nf.mpg.de (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.03 (built Apr 24 2009; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3Q007CEGVHRS00@mail.nf.mpg.de> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:04:30 +0200 (MEST) In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:73862 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-54--744118536 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Kevin, On 09.06.2010, at 05:43, Kevin Rodgers wrote: > Please show us the insert statement. (insert "Umlaut: =C3=BC") > When visiting ~/.emacs, what does `C-h C RET' display? * Emacs 23.2.1 Windows Server Enterprise 2007 (German) Coding system for saving this buffer: - -- undecided-dos (alias: dos) [...] Coding system for terminal output: nil Coding system for inter-client cut and paste: U -- utf-16le-dos Defaults for subprocess I/O: decoding: U -- utf-8-dos (alias: mule-utf-8-dos) [...] Process I/O "[pP][lL][iI][nN][kK]" (undecided-dos . undecided-dos) "[cC][mM][dD][pP][rR][oO][xX][yY]" (undecided-dos . undecided-dos) * Aquamacs 2.0 Mac (English) Coding system for saving this buffer: - -- undecided-unix (alias: unix) [...] Coding system for terminal output: U -- utf-8-unix (alias: mule-utf-8-unix) Coding system for inter-client cut and paste: nil Defaults for subprocess I/O: decoding: U -- utf-8-unix (alias: mule-utf-8-unix) [...] Process I/O nothing specified > When point is before the umlaut character in the insert statement, > what does `C-u C-x =3D' display? * Emacs 23.2.1 Windows Server Enterprise 2007 (German) character: =C3=BC (252, #o374, #xfc) preferred charset: iso-8859-1 (Latin-1 (ISO/IEC 8859-1)) code point: 0xFC syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, c:Chinese, j:Japanese, l:Latin buffer code: #xC3 #xBC file code: #xC3 #xBC (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) uniscribe:-outline-Courier = New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x81) Character code properties: customize what to show name: LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS old-name: LATIN SMALL LETTER U DIAERESIS general-category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) decomposition: (117 776) ('u' '=CC=88') There are text properties here: face font-lock-string-face fontified t The Aquamacs output is identical, except for the line that says = "uniscribe" on Windows, it says: nil:-apple-Monaco-medium-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 = (#x81) > > With Emacs 23.2 (Windows) the Umlaut is not displayed correctly (in > > the newly generated buffer), with Aquamacs 2.0 it works just > > fine. With both Emacsen, the .emacs-file yields "utf-8-unix" in the > > modeline and "utf-8" for the newly created buffer. > > > > Is this a bug or is it a coincidence that this works in Aquamacs? >=20 > There are a lot of variables to account for between the 2 platforms = and > the 2 Emacs versions. And so it seems. The problem can probably be explained by the above the = differences in the default coding systems, interesting. Warm regards, Stefan --=20 Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. 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