From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:16:45 +0200 Message-ID: <51F7E6ED.3070206@gmx.at> References: <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc45xuht.fsf@gnu.org> <83li4uv3en.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafhvnjd.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqodzll1.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3C056.2040706@gmx.at> <838v0syx2y.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3CB7C.1030005@gmx.at> <8361vwyq7f.fsf@gnu.org> <51F4D8E4.3010907@gmx.at> <8338qyzq55.fsf@gnu.org> <51F61FCC.9090008@gmx.at> <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> <83hafdxldu.fsf@gnu.org> <51F@[87.69.4.28]> <83bo5kxdwd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375201112 29706 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2013 16:18:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 18:18:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccv-00084w-Qb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:18:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44111 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccv-0005pY-C8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:18:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60309) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccl-0005kP-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:18:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccc-0001EZ-Di for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccc-0001EO-A7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Ccb-0002P0-Id for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:18:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.13752010249096 (code B ref 14841); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:18:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2013 16:17:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Cbf-0002Mc-4b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:64033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Cbc-0002Lu-LH for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:17:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.47.42.46] ([62.47.42.46]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MFuWk-1UpKU41gpy-00EuBt for <14841@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:16:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83bo5kxdwd.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TpJSETt96SF2LDs8QqP7jpJ724V4tg1jJGRwThrMB8VJsDBW7il cd4BxfrnxVlcTkw+xFY3qcsKT0QY50RIH5KTYtFenVQEZo8JFgboOoZZ0R3hQ1KJYgQKVmQ uaCADlFsKTfo/G74W2S4GweBNiO2caegoYB5F4we80GEBANCRfxyWtx91nOtZXBDPD+lm7M K5wVuo9jLf49xZQiJZ8Zg== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76823 Archived-At: > I think what you call "maximized" for other applications, Emacs calls > "fullboth". No. "fullboth" gets me a frame with no decorations, no title bar and no sizing borders. That's the usual F11 behavior with other applications and is handled as such by Emacs here. From http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms632599%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#min_max A maximized window is a window that has the WS_MAXIMIZE style. By default, the system enlarges a maximized window so that it fills the screen or, in the case of a child window, the parent window's client area. Although a window's size can be set to the same size of a maximized window, a maximized window is slightly different. The system automatically moves the window's title bar to the top of the screen or to the top of the parent window's client area. Also, the system disables the window's sizing border and the window-positioning capability of the title bar (so that the user cannot move the window by dragging the title bar). This is how applications like Firefox and Thunderbird maximize windows here. martin