From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:47 +0200 Message-ID: <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> References: <83a9ltun54.fsf@gnu.org> <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc45xuht.fsf@gnu.org> <83li4uv3en.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafhvnjd.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqodzll1.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3C056.2040706@gmx.at> <838v0syx2y.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3CB7C.1030005@gmx.at> <8361vwyq7f.fsf@gnu.org> <51F4D8E4.3010907@gmx.at> <8338qyzq55.fsf@gnu.org> <51F61FCC.9090008@gmx.at> <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375117229 6074 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2013 17:00:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 29 19:00:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qo3-0002D5-GE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:00:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38506 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qo3-0002nL-6T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:00:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48141) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qns-0002iE-6j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qnk-00077F-Rg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33923) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qnk-00076b-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qnj-0003aB-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:00:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.137511714313479 (code B ref 14841); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2013 16:59:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qml-0003VJ-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:53456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3qmj-0003U8-3H for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:59:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.47.62.165] ([62.47.62.165]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MFz0E-1Up0or12sY-00EvIF for <14841@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HyXdt5svCbwceyJCdHGw7wMHtWXVyLy8qB2MbezHUDK8SSlRDH7 E9pZ/8bazi9x1Q/YXJTFrPL3tYq2IEYKSGv9zKSibchbp57Li8vwZ76D8yC7cmM0ootPsuG GdBviWkoAHTDj6LDV6E04inSsB7UOxrC+Akpunx/QdSWLZ9kPDw/K1XmwtluyZy8jaMTSso pQAUM5ro6nrTu+sHGU3lQ== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76771 Archived-At: >> -mm is only an approximation of maximizing since it doesn't hide the >> window borders. > > It should do exactly what (fullscreen . maximized) frame parameter > does, so I guess you are already used to the above issue? For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame _without_ outer borders. What do you get? > You mean, the solution is for emacs to _take_ the dimensions of its > frame from its console window, yes? Because without that, runemacs > can pass whatever it wants, and no one will notice. Indeed. That's the wording I should have used. > Assuming the above is possible (having the window both hidden _and_ > maximized), patches are welcome. On the Web you can find a quite remarkable number of proposals how to get an initially maximized frame (not only on Windows, IIUC). So I think that we should provide a canonical solution. martin