* How to remove spaces for soft line-breaks
@ 2013-07-08 0:59 Yujie Wen
2013-07-08 8:22 ` Bastien
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From: Yujie Wen @ 2013-07-08 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Mode
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Hi, Experts there,
I encountered with an i18n problem while I was writing some Chinese
documents in Org-mode.
The problem is, when the documents is exported to HTML pages, there will
be a space for soft line-breaks, which is natural for English but redundant
for Chinese.
Please see the attached pictures for what soft line-breaks and the
redundant spaces are.
I am wondering whether there is a way to forbid such spaces, or if no
such a way, whether it is possible to work out a patch to forbid it.
Regards,
Yujie
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* Re: How to remove spaces for soft line-breaks
2013-07-08 0:59 How to remove spaces for soft line-breaks Yujie Wen
@ 2013-07-08 8:22 ` Bastien
2013-07-09 4:52 ` Christian Wittern
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From: Bastien @ 2013-07-08 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yujie Wen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Mode
Hi Yujie,
Yujie Wen <yjwen.ty@gmail.com> writes:
> I am wondering whether there is a way to forbid such spaces, or if
> no such a way, whether it is possible to work out a patch to forbid
> it.
I would try M-x visual-line-mode RET and see if you like it.
HTH,
--
Bastien
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* Re: How to remove spaces for soft line-breaks
2013-07-08 8:22 ` Bastien
@ 2013-07-09 4:52 ` Christian Wittern
2013-07-09 5:23 ` Yujie Wen
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From: Christian Wittern @ 2013-07-09 4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Bastien, Yujie
On 2013-07-08 17:22, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Yujie,
>
> Yujie Wen <yjwen.ty@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I am wondering whether there is a way to forbid such spaces, or if
>> no such a way, whether it is possible to work out a patch to forbid
>> it.
> I would try M-x visual-line-mode RET and see if you like it.
Well, this will not solve the problem for the OP, which occurs during export.
What has to be done, I think, is to remove the CR/LF characters for Chinese
(and Japanese, Korean etc.) text when exporting to HTML, because they will
otherwise show up in the displayed HTML as single space characters.
I guess, this requires either a derived custom export engine or a
internationalization framework that allows the specification of the text
language.
Christian
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Christian Wittern, Kyoto
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* Re: How to remove spaces for soft line-breaks
2013-07-09 4:52 ` Christian Wittern
@ 2013-07-09 5:23 ` Yujie Wen
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From: Yujie Wen @ 2013-07-09 5:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Mode
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Hi, Christian,
2013/7/9 Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com>
> Hi Bastien, Yujie
>
> On 2013-07-08 17:22, Bastien wrote:
>
>> Hi Yujie,
>>
>> Yujie Wen <yjwen.ty@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> I am wondering whether there is a way to forbid such spaces, or if
>>> no such a way, whether it is possible to work out a patch to forbid
>>> it.
>>>
>> I would try M-x visual-line-mode RET and see if you like it.
>>
> Well, this will not solve the problem for the OP, which occurs during
> export.
>
> What has to be done, I think, is to remove the CR/LF characters for
> Chinese (and Japanese, Korean etc.) text when exporting to HTML, because
> they will otherwise show up in the displayed HTML as single space
> characters.
>
I used to thinking of removing CR/LF at the parsing or exporting stage. But
now I think it is not a perfect solution since it will remove by mistake
some meaningful spaces. For example, in an English/Chinese mixed texts
whereas lines are sometimes broken at between two English words, which is
often the case when we fill graphs with m-q.
Discerning meaningful and meaningless spaces for Chinese and Japanese is
rather too complicated a topic. Chinese rarely use spaces for separating
words, Japanese sometimes use spaces for separating syntax elements.
Korean, by my instinct at staring on Korean scripts, does use spaces to
separate words.
I guess, this requires either a derived custom export engine or a
> internationalization framework that allows the specification of the text
> language.
>
> Christian
>
>
> --
> Christian Wittern, Kyoto
>
>
>
Regards,
Yujie
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