From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:27:54 +0200 Message-ID: <51D3EE9A.2050900@gmx.at> References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <4E4C522D-DBCC-4133-A764-82C9CCE81E2D@swipnet.se> <8913208E-7FE2-41F5-AC93-000108413C47@swipnet.se> <51D126A4.50402@gmx.at> <55419fed-b69d-4d07-81b2-b5b70f113929@default> <54cfe77b-f378-4402-b185-21372177ed60@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372844649 21305 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2013 09:44:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs developers To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 11:44:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UuJbd-0001sW-IO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:44:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58783 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuJbd-0006uu-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 05:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuJbY-0006uo-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 05:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuJbX-0005zj-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 05:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:55803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuJM5-0007Zj-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 05:28:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.33]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M950d-1V65aT3mEX-00CP4L for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:28:04 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Jul 2013 09:28:04 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-46-61.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.46.61]) [62.47.46.61] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 03 Jul 2013 11:28:04 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18wf6QM01Ewq7raX6EjE3TD+WKeecY50JMap2re3U 2GJGk7CYew/RUY In-Reply-To: <54cfe77b-f378-4402-b185-21372177ed60@default> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161460 Archived-At: > AFAIK, you will never be able to get rid of the frame created initially, > which has its own minibuffer. That was the point here. If you want a > standalone minibuffer frame, and if you want it to be the only such > (which I would again argue is the typical case of MF users), then AFAIK > you must create the MF at the outset. With emacs -Q (let ((frame (selected-frame)) frame-1 frame-2) (setq frame-1 (make-frame '((minibuffer . only)))) (setq default-minibuffer-frame frame-1) (setq frame-2 (make-frame '((minibuffer . none)))) (delete-frame frame)) martin