From: Summer Emacs <summeremacs@summerstar.me>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Newbie Info Pages
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:45:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D1701A-4E38-4D8F-9D9C-ABDD7013933E@summerstar.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ttekjbxk.fsf@gnu.org>
> On Sep 13, 2024, at 08:38, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:29:40 -0500
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> Would it make sense to have a `emacs-welcome-new-user' mode which
>> "collects" configuration defaults appropriate for new users and
>> provides means to enable (and, perhaps, disable) them en masse?
>
> This was discussed in the past (search the archives), but never went
> anywhere beyond the discussion. The idea is certainly sensible, but
> implementing it is a challenge, since different groups of users/usage
> patterns need different stuff in such a mode.
Yeah. I’ve been told. The problem with this is the following:
Premise: Everyone is different. Everyone has different needs.
Deduction: No tutorial will ever meet the needs of every single person.
Conclusion: Let’s not do anything.
Instead, let’s try this:
Premise: Most people who use Emacs are devs.
Given: Not everyone who uses Emacs is a dev.
Deduction: The people who aren’t devs may get lost in the assumptions made in Emacs welcome pages.
Conclusion: Let’s make a tutorial for people who aren’t devs.
I think mine sounds better and, maybe with a little luck and a touch of effort, we may get somewhere. =)
Summer Emacs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-13 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 17:30 Emacs Newbie Info Pages Summer Emacs
2024-09-12 18:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-12 18:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-12 19:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 7:36 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13 7:39 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 14:46 ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-13 12:28 ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-12 18:29 ` Corwin Brust
2024-09-12 19:00 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 2:24 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-17 10:58 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 14:12 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 14:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 16:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-18 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 16:49 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-19 9:45 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 7:45 ` Summer Emacs [this message]
2024-09-13 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 11:20 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 12:09 ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 8:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-18 20:02 ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-20 2:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-22 12:37 ` Peter Oliver
2024-09-22 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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