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From: Summer Emacs <summeremacs@summerstar.me>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Newbie Info Pages
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:45:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D1701A-4E38-4D8F-9D9C-ABDD7013933E@summerstar.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ttekjbxk.fsf@gnu.org>



> On Sep 13, 2024, at 08:38, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:29:40 -0500
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> Would it make sense to have a `emacs-welcome-new-user' mode which
>> "collects" configuration defaults appropriate for new users and
>> provides means to enable (and, perhaps, disable) them en masse?
> 
> This was discussed in the past (search the archives), but never went
> anywhere beyond the discussion.  The idea is certainly sensible, but
> implementing it is a challenge, since different groups of users/usage
> patterns need different stuff in such a mode.

Yeah. I’ve been told. The problem with this is the following:

Premise: Everyone is different. Everyone has different needs.

Deduction: No tutorial will ever meet the needs of every single person.

Conclusion: Let’s not do anything.

Instead, let’s try this:

Premise: Most people who use Emacs are devs.
Given: Not everyone who uses Emacs is a dev.
Deduction: The people who aren’t devs may get lost in the assumptions made in Emacs welcome pages.
Conclusion: Let’s make a tutorial for people who aren’t devs.

I think mine sounds better and, maybe with a little luck and a touch of effort, we may get somewhere. =)

Summer Emacs




  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-13  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-12 17:30 Emacs Newbie Info Pages Summer Emacs
2024-09-12 18:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-12 18:45   ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-12 19:17     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13  6:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13  7:36         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-13  7:39       ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 14:46         ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-13 12:28       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-12 18:29 ` Corwin Brust
2024-09-12 19:00   ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13  2:24   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17  3:47     ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-17 10:58       ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 13:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 14:12           ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 14:48             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 16:45               ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-18  1:09                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 15:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 16:49               ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-17 17:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  3:51         ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-19  9:45           ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13  6:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13  7:45     ` Summer Emacs [this message]
2024-09-13 10:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 11:20         ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 11:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13 12:09             ` Summer Emacs
2024-09-13 13:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18  8:13       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-18 20:02         ` Juergen Fenn
2024-09-20  2:39           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-22 12:37   ` Peter Oliver
2024-09-22 14:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-13  6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii

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