From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14666: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:59:03 +0200 Message-ID: <51C21B97.1080505@gmx.at> References: <015b7f9e-f365-4c91-bdf7-2fc8f08b256a@default> <83sj0eozd9.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppvioxno.fsf@gnu.org> <83obb2ownx.fsf@gnu.org> <51C1F101.80806@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371675616 7309 80.91.229.3 (19 Jun 2013 21:00:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14666@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 19 23:00:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPUF-0000z3-SU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:00:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40524 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPUF-0005s0-Hv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPUB-0005pE-2f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPU6-0003Gp-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:00:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPU5-0003Gj-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPU4-00072e-TD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:00:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14666 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 14666-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14666.137167556326943 (code B ref 14666); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14666) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2013 20:59:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPTO-00070V-Mv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:59:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:64135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpPTM-000705-11 for 14666@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.35]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwSE-1UpPTF43XM-0000jL for <14666@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:59:14 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2013 20:59:13 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-60-196.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.60.196]) [62.47.60.196] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 19 Jun 2013 22:59:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18o63s5tOwo/41TrFJU20pKAzZGZ/3zM9GsljMJsI kFmiNxvWJmKajq In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75368 Archived-At: >> If the input thread wants to calculate a window's size and >> the Lisp thread deletes the window under its feet, we're lost anyway. > > Sure. > > My point is that these macros hide what's happening. I suppose if someone writes > > if (BUFFERP (b)) > /* do something with b */ > > in the main window procedure of Emacs, it is easier to think about > race conditions and such than when using macros which hide lots and > lots of detail. We fully agree. martin