From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11935: XINT etc. should be functions Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 00:13:11 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <51B42B07.5090209@cs.ucla.edu> References: <500039B7.8050106@cs.ucla.edu> <51B0B137.5020705@cs.ucla.edu> <51B3D1B5.8020807@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370762047 16487 80.91.229.3 (9 Jun 2013 07:14:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 07:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11935@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 09 09:14:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpG-0008Ov-5I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 09:14:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50126 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpF-0008L1-HV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpB-0008Kd-I4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpA-0003CU-Mi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpA-0003CQ-Iu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:14:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZpC-0007SL-E3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 07:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 11935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11935.137076201228583 (code B ref 11935); Sun, 09 Jun 2013 07:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2013 07:13:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52679 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZoc-0007Qd-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:13:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:60810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UlZoV-0007Pn-VW for 11935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C739E8106; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FbX5sde967co; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 00:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-108-49-126.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.108.49.126]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B54CC39E8008; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 00:13:11 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74922 Archived-At: On 06/08/2013 08:04 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I think it'll be a fine idea but only when -Og is supported in > Debian stable. I'd rather not wait three (or five!) more years to install helpful changes like this. I might not live that long. If it's unacceptable to maintain both a macro and a function implementation for a few primitives, we can simply have the latter invoke the former -- that way, there's only one actual implementation. Or if you prefer, we can omit the functions entirely. We can leave in a FIXME reminding us to change the macros to functions after the three years or so. Another option is that you could download and install GCC 4.8.x on your Debian stable host. That should work. That might be better for Emacs development, though it'd be a bit more of an effort for you.