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From: ken <gebser@mousecar.com>
To: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal?
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 05:52:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51877D68.5070300@mousecar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <km785o$kh5$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 05/05/2013 11:31 PM Jason White wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie  <acm@muc.de> wrote:
>
>> Are you suggesting you're willing to put in the work to remove terminal
>> support from Emacs?  It'd be a lot of work.  What would be the point?
>
> Exactly. And if anyone is seriously proposing to remove terminal support,
> could they also implement all of the necessary ATK interfaces to enable my
> braille display to be used with Emacs under X11 and GTK? It works wonderfully
> at the console and also over ssh connections, thanks to the terminal display
> code in Emacs, removal of which would be a major regression for my use cases.
>
> I should mention that I use Emacspeak for speech output and highly recommend
> it; Emacspeak can run equally well in a terminal or under X, but for braille
> access (using a refreshable braille device) Emacs really must be run in a
> terminal session.

Occasionally I need to work on a remote server which doesn't have X 
running and have to do extensive editing, not trivial enough to use vi. 
  So, yes, in those instances it's nice not to have to learn a new 
editor-- which would be the only alternative.

Also, I've run emacs in batch mode to extensively edit thousands of 
files non-interactively all "at once", something which would have taxed 
my sed, awk, and grep skills and required a much longer time to develop 
than it did using emacs.

Emacs isn't simply an editor in the sense that Word is an editor. 
Stallman, in fact, prefers the term "text processor" to describe emacs, 
and as the people above indicate, it's a very extensible one at that.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-06  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.25145.1367723226.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05  3:43 ` Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Chad Brown
2013-05-07 18:17   ` Cecil Westerhof
2013-05-08  2:30     ` Hugh Lawson
2013-05-08  9:35       ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 15:53         ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-08 20:51           ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 21:08             ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-22 11:01               ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-09  8:26             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]           ` <mailman.25343.1368046244.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 23:21             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09  8:21               ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-05-09  8:38               ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 13:39                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 15:26                   ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 15:35                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 18:50                       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 18:58                       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:01                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:09                           ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:04                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:19                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 19:27                             ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.25426.1368126295.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 19:09                           ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 21:08                             ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11  4:01                               ` PJ Weisberg
2013-05-11 14:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 14:45                                 ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.25436.1368133731.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 21:58                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:00                   ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-09 16:02                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:19                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:25                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:40                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:46                             ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:04                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:11                                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:27                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:50                                     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-09 16:51                             ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.25407.1368118028.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-10  4:08                               ` comint outside emacs (was Does anyone really use emacs in terminal?) rusi
2013-05-10  4:48                                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:19                       ` Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Hongxu Chen
2013-05-09 16:27                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 18:13                       ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-11 18:14                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 19:12                           ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.25563.1368296076.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 20:14                           ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 21:11                             ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.25571.1368306670.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 21:40                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 22:32                                 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 23:51                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-12  8:30                                   ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-12  8:44                                     ` Hongxu Chen
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25594.1368348301.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 19:44                                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-12 20:00                                         ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12 20:53                                           ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 21:18                                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.25612.1368392031.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 22:40                                             ` Dan Espen
2013-05-13  1:23                                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12 20:52                                         ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-13  5:58                                           ` Jonathan Groll
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.25577.1368311553.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 22:41                                   ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12  0:04                                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 13:46                                       ` Jonathan Groll
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25583.1368317085.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12  0:09                                       ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12  2:27                                   ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12  6:32                                     ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.25590.1368340339.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 14:07                                       ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:17                     ` Hongxu Chen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.25386.1368106748.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 13:43                   ` notbob
2013-05-09 15:57                     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:53                   ` Jay Belanger
     [not found]         ` <mailman.25331.1368028437.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 16:51           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-08 19:49             ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09  1:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09  2:48                 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09  7:25                 ` Jonathan Groll
2013-05-09  9:08                   ` Tamas Papp
2013-05-05 10:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-05-06  3:31   ` Jason White
2013-05-06  9:52     ` ken [this message]
2013-05-06  9:56       ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]       ` <mailman.25227.1367834181.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 10:22         ` Andrea Venturoli
     [not found]   ` <mailman.25215.1367811087.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-06 13:13     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-06 15:29   ` Joost Kremers
2013-05-05  3:06 Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  3:58 ` Le Wang
2013-05-05  4:06   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:30     ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-05  4:33       ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  5:38     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:43       ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  6:58         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-05 17:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-05-05 19:30           ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  6:59     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.25179.1367737210.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05 14:27       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 19:31         ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 19:52           ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-05-05  4:32   ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-08 12:51     ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-05  5:34   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:39     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:04 ` XeCycle
2013-05-05  4:13 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-05  4:17   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:36     ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-05  5:42     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  4:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  4:39   ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  4:41     ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05  8:29       ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-05  5:43     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05  5:46     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09 11:50   ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-05  6:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-05  8:21 ` eniotna
2013-05-06 10:20   ` Bastien

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