From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14233: 24.3; Don't constrain frame size to character multiples Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 11:22:58 +0200 Message-ID: <51823072.1000608@gmx.at> References: <5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at><51750438.5060106@gmx.at><8C0357F6-5720-42E5-90EB-B83416F0344E@swipnet.se><51762F4D.7070101@gmx.at> <8361zdxll8.fsf@gnu.org><51777DF3.5030206@gmx.at> <83fvyfx3c1.fsf@gnu.org><5178DB50.20404@gmx.at> <834neuvas1.fsf@gnu.org> <517A2FCE.30006@gmx.at> <97FD826D96FF4DAA91192817D475A0B3@us.oracle.com> <517B776B.2080007@gmx.at> <517D1370.5070603@gmx.at> <7843BFD1369F48989C7E86E60FFA0C0A@us.oracle.com> <517E225E.9010906@gmx.at> <281755A4CB9C4DF9A5D2700E4FF26900@us.oracle.com> <517EA462.50000@gmx.at> <022239E9EC0E41E8A1AF6F4C14FF5A39@us.oracle.com> <517F7420.7080204! @gmx.at> <2FCB61519F9546A3BD7C1D9A35B93241@us.oracle.com> <517FFA70.1040! 107@gmx.at> <5180DD22.604! 0607@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367486622 20074 80.91.229.3 (2 May 2013 09:23:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 09:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 02 11:23:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpjo-0004sQ-0S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 11:23:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpjn-0003eq-JU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41741) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpji-0003ek-E6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpje-0001mv-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpje-0001mc-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpkB-0005f6-2w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:24:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 09:24:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14233 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14233-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14233.136748662321640 (code B ref 14233); Thu, 02 May 2013 09:24:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2013 09:23:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpjq-0005cy-MH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:63638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXpjj-0005cY-R7 for 14233@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 05:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.16]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LqXNf-1U3Qqy0jab-00e1v5 for <14233@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 May 2013 11:23:01 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 May 2013 09:23:01 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-63-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.63.245]) [62.47.63.245] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 02 May 2013 11:23:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/HyA1rmFbHDOVRsd/+LH8S39WMidRaHrZ0at30v2 mvXqhER4OnUr7s In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73889 Archived-At: >> But I obviously agree with you that modifying a specific >> frame's parameters via `modify-frame-parameters' should >> never affect other or future frames. > > Including parameter `font'? Including parameter `font'. > Setting face `default' (and thus the default font) is akin to setting (part of) > `default-frame-alist' - it is expressly intended to determine future frames. That's what I would expect. > `modify-frame-parameters' has the advantage that it is simple to use. And there > is really no more conflict inherent in `modify-frame-parameters', because of > parameter interdependence, than there is inherent in `default-frame-alist': You > can define that option value in a way such that various parameter settings > collide also, I imagine. Yes. Throughout, I've been using `modify-frame-parameters' only as an example. Evaluating `initial-frame-alist' and `default-frame-alist' runs precisely into the same problems and should be fixed the same way. > Not necessarily, or not necessarily in lock step. A user could want to zoom the > font but not zoom the menu bar or tool bar (or vice versa). So the zooming function should accomodate that. martin