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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264002 Archived-At: On February 5, 2021 12:21:02 PM GMT+01:00, Eli Zaretskii = wrote: >> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 09:21:20 +0000 >> From: Gregory Heytings >>=20 >> A proposal to solve the current problem and future similar problems >is to=20 >> free one of the keys, and to mention in `(elisp) Key Binding >Conventions'=20 >> that it is, forever, reserved for external packages=2E >>=20 >> This proposal has two forms: a weak and a strong one=2E The weak one >would=20 >> only reserve the control key, the strong one would also reserve the >meta=20 >> and control-meta keys=2E >>=20 >> The candidate keys for that proposal are "z", "t" and "o"=2E > >C-z, C-t, and C-o are already taken, and are very old bindings=2E C-t >in particular is very useful and frequently-used (by me, FWIW), and >also matches the default binding in Bash, GDB CLI, and elsewhere=2E A >recent discussion demonstrated that at least for C-z enough people are >against changing its binding, even though we have "C-x C-z" to do the >same=2E > Hi Eli: IIRC there were not agreement about what to do with C-z=2E BUT not really = many people against the change itself=2E There was the suggestion to use C-= z C-z and C-z z (ala M-g g) inside the new C-z map that made happy many old= C-z users=2E Then the problem was the lack of a decision and a deadline to= decide=2E=20 Sometimes I feel that we need just a pool application to vote and a deadli= ne=2E to decide about=2E And we will save a lot of emails=2E >These data points suggest that usurping these keys may not be easy, to >say the least=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E