From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:54:43 +0200 Message-ID: <515BE043.8030900@easy-emacs.de> References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87ppydxqh4.fsf@scipolis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364975622 18173 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 07:53:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 07:53:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 09:54:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNIWD-0006Z2-KX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:54:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNIVp-00050S-0Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNIVV-0004wh-0x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNIVT-0002LS-Mg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:56235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNIVT-0002L6-DE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4d0c1954.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.25.84]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lgf13-1V1arj0WXt-00njri; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:53:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87ppydxqh4.fsf@scipolis.de> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:2IxOmrwTuNGr+ZKOe6DELxTyMF7jW7MID0dR/EmqcvM uVUBar5dP9uBJFkL3q0YvugNRiCVoGTs7no9nHpFe+ci1I+Sbe QTwwnehxu9nDryGb/jy+8ie/oiSJf+fMrLI3uuVdt2Ka5kqeDD CLMAC5MZl7HCjfIaD1zxYoOpxYvV3MFpHn3oSFTbjp/Xrs6T6I ZNFg5QQFKQW+Q8G+wrgzPsESORHxD9S7mLG5tym5+oS443O54K 8Xy3Gf8wXOYsHmKp6N7eY/PHk6U01px1GlCk/8H4MiXZKdsJEk N+1CXf5uY0wASPOhMLjbYG6BP9OTT7qz9/zoEMmAQ9fXsjuAMK sqyaNBgEDIJUFyksoeh6pPY0OgSQYdotje16NoSHL X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89921 Archived-At: Am 02.04.2013 10:54, schrieb Nicolas Neuss: > Bastien writes: > >> Hi, >> >> Andreas Röhler writes: >> >>> When using GPLed code, you may simply publish your changed code >>> GPLed again. >> >> More precisely, GPLed code gives you the right to reuse and publish >> the code in your code if it's published under the same license. >> >> So yes, you can publish your changes to this code. >> >>> Thanks giving another example wrt to the noxious results of >>> copyright assigment policy, which undermines goals of GPL. >> >> Why pushing your agenda against copyright assignment into this thread? >> >> I don't think it is irrevelant. >> >> The question is "Can I publish the changes?" and the answer is "Yes". >> >> As for including psgml into GNU ELPA, the answer is "Not until all >> authors have sign the FSF copyright assignment". >> >> This is a policy that is particular to GNU Emacs and some other GNU >> projects. It shows respect for potential authors (by not including >> their code without their permission) and protects actual authors (by >> allowing them to rely on the fact that changes against Emacs code by >> signed contributors can be part of Emacs.) > > I think there is a more important reason for those copyright > assignments: The FSF considers its projects as so central for free > software that their copyright status has to be beyond any doubt. > > For example, there could arise severe damage if some malicious company > (you name it) suddenly claimed that central pieces of GNU software were > contributed (maybe years ago) by some of their employees without > employer's permission. > In which way a CA-paper could avoid that? What about the opposite danger: a company signs, provides crucial parts and withdraws CA? See current discussions at emacs-devel on a lower scale. Emacs got a lot of re-write already for pur CA-reasons. Isn't that spoiled human labor in the light of GPL? Andreas > Nicolas > > [I will read answers to this, but (probably) not respond, because I also > think that this is the wrong newsgroup for this discussion.] > > >