From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:57:25 +0200 Message-ID: <51586AF5.1070309@easy-emacs.de> References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87r4ivobbb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515857CD.8080504@easy-emacs.de> <831uav4kr9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364748982 10549 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2013 16:56:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:56:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 31 18:56:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMLYj-0008VX-H0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:56:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMLYL-0000PN-2o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:56:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMLY9-0000PF-R4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMLY7-0000dA-AM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]:54405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMLY7-0000d5-0x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4dbc6e76.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.110.118]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Ly8x7-1UjmDI20nd-015cO7; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:56:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: <831uav4kr9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:x14i2s0AJQVgFlzS/ZUtNq2EetCpAfF6lX6cpu0PhFr t9FHeu4hdKiNQRlsuVrTSRZzeNTrUys/WfYrJgsgvrPSveEC6R 7JdC2Kn9m80rGfRQ7oLsJcOC1EC4uGUv8cZW4Sq4u2nisEbKgU ZDRGL7mzRgtID61bji2yrKEbM8EDROOGxkYIJwKjQRjRx4Fqv9 NJ76EDGscPjFODQauU+TL2AeEnbw03IzY0nhx6PUXzt+ZsSuRu 1D59ZjGIORPPZswv5P+XGLQpe3bKsHdM22WNnQikLyUFyfog+W RHczFNSCMct/qBOTl40UuD5GGGE47OlRcw+tIX81e0mMxsxutw 6OIv10Y6+l1pICctVZqp9f7W6J5fwY9/9U2SEv0M4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.171 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89843 Archived-At: Am 31.03.2013 18:06, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:35:41 +0200 >> From: Andreas Röhler >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> >>>> Thanks giving another example wrt to the noxious results of >>>> copyright assigment policy, which undermines goals of GPL. >>> >>> Why pushing your agenda against copyright assignment into this thread? >> >> Copyright assignment policy stifles cooperation, encourages bad manners, spreads FUD. > > But saying that in GNU forums is rude and off-topic. Please do this > somewhere else. > > > Hi Eli, please consider the case at stake: a great library like psgml.el, which delivered solutions hardly found elsewhere, was kept nearly unknown for more than a decade. Don't you accept there is a difference between not bundling code and not mentioning it? Not to say: discourage it's use. If you might consider the effect already visible in this thread, you will remark the notion of the explicit consentement of authors for a change or republishing as so called matter of respect. Don't you see the danger which raises for all free software from there? All legal tracts and stances are interpreted in the light of habit. If a court notices the habit of requesting personal consentements for otherwise GPLed code changes as a need, the story of free software might be over. Best regards, Andreas