From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:35:41 +0200 Message-ID: <515857CD.8080504@easy-emacs.de> References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87r4ivobbb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364744086 30972 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2013 15:34:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 31 17:35:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMKHi-00063e-9A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:35:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45633 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMKHJ-0007XB-S9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57069) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMKH3-0007Wr-VT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMKH1-0002iz-3C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:34:25 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:56677) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMKH0-0002it-Qf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4dbc6e76.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.110.118]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LpUcU-1Ust8F2UkA-00fOWi; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:34:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87r4ivobbb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Rmlev2Xodmm2Y43SsA/ygNxCp2zgZ3O4zHGoPcpOD4k j/jvJHKSSNzq3YKGOZPYSqby8r5ceBG0kl/JDAoX0K30DC0xOd OXR/1YS0aGuqn7TVRzxkN7oNxgsqMBbpWWKJrqmeCbNW9y/CaO 8fD3bKzG1y9viqS9/qBlfxtHynDrZRbYLjCpYh8ajqQzqWfkbu CLQoN1GCEuOyTqodlVINrminRMhkSrnaZH3baWYe2ApWhYt6Bf AN5qIhRzwB2NfO0qwpYCSe9L7eLQRSVY/vK8XRKjphCHqoAZ/X mOvVCwfRw0ulqVNV6P1lMpSkFOt+ew8j2zIYq4iGAURLry+BEg m6X30BC5RsSmEDwao6REpUkRX807pmRXz+XuzBCzX X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89838 Archived-At: Am 31.03.2013 17:09, schrieb Bastien: > Hi, > > Andreas Röhler writes: > >> When using GPLed code, you may simply publish your changed code >> GPLed again. > > More precisely, GPLed code gives you the right to reuse and publish > the code in your code if it's published under the same license. > > So yes, you can publish your changes to this code. > >> Thanks giving another example wrt to the noxious results of >> copyright assigment policy, which undermines goals of GPL. > > Why pushing your agenda against copyright assignment into this thread? Copyright assignment policy stifles cooperation, encourages bad manners, spreads FUD. It's not me putting this at the agenda, it's there by it's inventors. > > I don't think it is irrevelant. > > The question is "Can I publish the changes?" and the answer is "Yes". > > As for including psgml into GNU ELPA, the answer is "Not until all > authors have sign the FSF copyright assignment". > > This is a policy that is particular to GNU Emacs and some other GNU > projects. It shows respect for potential authors (by not including > their code without their permission) So GPL doesn't show this respect?(!) Requiring (unpaid!) copyright assignment means perverting the GPL. and protects actual authors (by > allowing them to rely on the fact that changes against Emacs code by > signed contributors can be part of Emacs.) > Emacs - a marvelous tool misused for bad policy here.