From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: company.el status? Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 07:28:53 +0400 Message-ID: <51526775.4030506@yandex.ru> References: <87ip53yuuv.fsf@yandex.ru> <5138DC2E.3020102@nschum.de> <87k3pj7xfy.fsf@yandex.ru> <5139C8E0.3030503@nschum.de> <87mwudwiw2.fsf@yandex.ru> <83obetx9wn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364354960 5266 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2013 03:29:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 03:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers , rms@gnu.org, me@nschum.de To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 27 04:29:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKh3U-0002xg-5X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 04:29:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKh36-0005eL-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKh2z-0005dM-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKh2v-0004XS-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]:56567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKh2n-0004Wb-2P; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so14924448lab.9 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-antivirus:x-antivirus-status; bh=oJMFws9mXA3+ufA0M4iMcamUQSbOgL3VOxg9hGOdxx8=; b=pXBWPW54XFBFkIM9Pqg38jUE5PjEA/Z0VeDYu7URKhk9LKpbImpxQFfNQwjXvxDUMA AC0fuowv4BZiynkWlpNtMECNv9ioWlO58RW6cGT8P5qpCqTleo20h4CSGZHbkTp9aJ8U Qc4LBCdMorqJwoKRCpH1cs57n9ZWds3KmXHZaS5Ku+1Ic8PPqx9jHpW2SCHaX5UX2nbY Hlw9Ped4h5BB0hmJqvRvaodj/O4KThir5THvPFskphvWhHRLgucyuGDHDiTDUreINhIZ YDV4QTW8W//O+BSkuHCl7Vm7YFY2h6D1N+9S3nhyc5A5hmrZX6poqD1xsknHwMttNnYV +hqQ== X-Received: by 10.112.125.198 with SMTP id ms6mr5400356lbb.48.1364354935479; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fz16sm7449726lab.5.2013.03.26.20.28.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:54 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130326-1, 27.03.2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158261 Archived-At: On 27.03.2013 6:56, Tim Cross wrote: > My question as well. While I won't lose any sleep should we give up on > bzr and move to git, I am very concerned regarding further fracturing of > the emacs ecosystem if that means using a platform which is using > non-free tools. Git != GitHub. I believe I presented some reasons why a project might want to use GitHub over hosting solely at gnu.org. > Lets have all official emacs packages use > git, but on gnu.org . If we start moving things out to > various other locations, before long, we will have forks and different Forks are good, the power to create one is one of the main freedoms provided by free software licenses. If a project has people taking its code and running in different directions, it means the project is in demand, and it increases the probability that those people either contribute back, or maybe create something newer and more exciting. > versions all over the place, leaving an envrionment where only the > determined and experienced emacser has any hope - all new users will run > a mile. As long as GNU ELPA is easy to contribute to and the project maintainer is willing, there shouldn't be any problems. Now, if you're actually using the package, how about contributing some code? I'm currently the sole developer, and I'm not in any danger of splitting into several people anytime soon. --Dmitry