From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13788: 24.3.50; report-emacs-bug; report-emacs-bug-no-explanations Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:32:27 +0100 Message-ID: <5128708B.80705@easy-emacs.de> References: <5127B741.5030901@online.de> <831uc8m7xc.fsf@gnu.org> <5127E2CE.6010602@easy-emacs.de> <83sj4okomz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361604762 30587 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2013 07:32:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13788@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 08:33:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U99bU-0007Nf-5j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:33:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U99b9-0004to-Mi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:32:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U99b5-0004tc-3X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:32:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U99b2-00063d-OM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U99b2-00063Z-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U99cQ-00081L-Hm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:34:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13788.136160481730799 (code B ref 13788); Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 07:33:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U99c1-00080h-4Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:33:37 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:52068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U99bx-00080Y-Ts for 13788@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:33:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4dbc70f2.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.112.242]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MPItE-1UDXIh2Vm4-004d6Z; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:32:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/17.0.2 In-Reply-To: <83sj4okomz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:in7FooEQMxUUHdqQ4+p3ULG1IAM8Wkw4xCOPZEYSuZ4 ZnsbP+PLMtg6Z+Qn3kw25C0rkBpi4JmkrI/LvMhSp4bsVDc+E4 qaGPg/f/Ku8dlBEZMnlnQ8NBfHdnrrEKYj69W96YuUESXJufDQ w1sLQkgydEzGss+iSfJsbubvons/8hv8D/FpEdT4TdgNhavuW9 JoqiIYSupLbKZAtJswUV4iTVkeycV16H1GJjQDbTmICHOvrmRR DEubP7x0gWLrX3DRUhUlpG1CJAVTb0YLFwnQDebGt7iJMgZq5I baEDedCeVME8QqHFuN35JSJhXQt0JzHHTo4RSXQfftu/+9l0So xJ60V1hYRr+d7JQV5tkZg0zBxD93cRLXhPHhgkckH X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71696 Archived-At: Am 22.02.2013 22:46, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:27:42 +0100 >> From: Andreas Röhler >> >> Then exists a doku bug, it's told >> >> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and >> the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe >> starting from `emacs -Q': > > It's not a bug. It is easier to debug a problem if it can be > reproduced starting with "emacs -Q". But there's no requirement to > report the bug (with the recipe) from "emacs -Q". > > Well, the point is: present implementation clutters reports with directives useless for the receiver. Better not to insert that into the report, but open a help-buffer, when reporting starts. Plus an option to disable that help-buffer.