From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13690: 24.3.50; scroll-conservatively and Info-up Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:51:25 +0400 Message-ID: <511C431D.4090807@yandex.ru> References: <87sj52juwu.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <834nhh5x1y.fsf@gnu.org> <87ip5xp4yv.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <83txpg509x.fsf@gnu.org> <87621w72th.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <83mwv83ydi.fsf@gnu.org> <87pq04hway.fsf@yandex.ru> <83d2w351il.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360806763 30277 80.91.229.3 (14 Feb 2013 01:52:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 13690@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 02:53:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5o0T-0004U1-TH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm20sm10941347lab.7.2013.02.13.17.51.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:51:24 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 In-Reply-To: <83d2w351il.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71231 Archived-At: On 14.02.2013 1:48, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Cc: Stephen Berman , 13690@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:02:13 +0400 >> >>> . Since those changes were made, 2.5 years ago, I heard _zero_ >>> complaints about this behavior; you are the first one. By >> >> I don't think that's true anymore. You should at least remember the bug >> I posted relatively recently: >> >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13133 > > OK, so he is the 2nd one since June 2010. How does that change the > picture? Somewhat. It drastically lowers the odds of each of us being random crackpots. Validates the point of view, or whatever. And since 5 is on the same order of magnitude as 2, the new opinion is statistically relevant. >> Like I explained in the bug above, the current behavior creates problems >> in edge cases. So a users can choose the values that "work almost right, >> but not exactly". > > Every behavior can be problematic in some edge cases. > > Anyway, I'm not part to this argument. I don't customize > scroll-conservatively (or any other of the scroll-* options). I just > coded it like users who complained wanted. Judging by the silence > since then, I'd say the change was mostly right. But if I'm wrong, > someone else can come up and code something different. I can understand if you don't want to work on it anymore. If the stance on the issue has changed from "nobody wants that" to "patches welcome", I'm good, for now.