From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Steer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: intlfonts and quote marks Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:15:25 +1000 Message-ID: <51.3020823293076$1124674352@news.gmane.org> References: <5505ff6058f0042331b85e0e6fec8757@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124674352 31402 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2005 01:32:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 03:32:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E71AN-00081E-Sc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:32:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E71E5-0002K2-6a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E71Da-0002AQ-F3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E71DM-00025b-8n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E71DL-00022p-Qg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [150.203.2.44] (helo=anumail4.anu.edu.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E713N-0006Mw-J1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:24:46 -0400 Original-Received: from smtphost.anu.edu.au (stats.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.50]) by anumail4.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7M1OCb6008618 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:24:13 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from cairo.anu.edu.au (cairo.anu.edu.au [150.203.224.11]) by smtphost.anu.edu.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7M1OCIi022814 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:24:12 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from imac.local. (rspas-dialup07.anu.edu.au [150.203.228.227]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.0) with ESMTP id j7M1O9Zk022446 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:24:11 +1000 (EST) X-From-Line: nobody Mon Aug 22 11:15:36 2005 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <5505ff6058f0042331b85e0e6fec8757@Web.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:51:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Original-Lines: 23 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.8.21.33 internal X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:28904 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:28904 Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 21.08.2005 um 19:31 schrieb Martin Steer: > >> I have a problem with quotation marks and the intlfonts, which I've >> just installed. These fonts have 'smart quotes' which seem not to be >> so smart. All I get are closing (right-side) marks, regardless of >> position. > > Well, *you* have to be so smart to choose them! > > In Mac OS X I press on my German keyboard alt-2 (=E2=80=9C) or Shift-alt-= 2 (=E2=80=9D) > or alt-Shift-w (=E2=80=9E) to get them. When I want ... I wasn't clear. I meant that use of the font replaces all ordinary (vertical) quotes in any buffer with 'smart quotes', with the result that there are closing (single or double) quotes in all positions, including, for example, quoted text in emails. I would like to fix this behaviour, but retain the font. As you suggest, it seems to me that smart quotes should be an option, rather than the default. Should I define a new fontset? The standard fontset has picked up the use of intlfonts automatically (they're at the head of my fontpath: could this be the source of the problem?). --=20 Martin