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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 13399@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13399: 24.3.50; Word-wrap can't wrap at zero-width space U-200B
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:29:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EFE99A.5070508@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ip74ume7.fsf@gnu.org>

 >>  > You mean, not wrapped at all.  Witness the continuation bitmaps in the
 >>  > fringes, which shouldn't appear when a line is wrapped.
 >>
 >> I thought these bitmaps appear when a line is wrapped.
 >
 > Not by default.  Not unless you customize visual-line-fringe-indicators.

With emacs -Q I see curly arrows in the fringes regardless of whether I
set `visual-line-fringe-indicators' or not.  What am I missing?

 >> The doc-string of `word-wrap' says
 >>
 >>    When word-wrapping is on, continuation lines are wrapped at the space
 >>    or tab character nearest to the right window edge
 >>
 >> Since U-200B is a space character the line should wrap at it.
 >
 > No, it means literally "the space character", U+0020.

So `word-wrap' is ASCII-only?  The doc-string should say so.

 >> and Emacs apparently does handle it specially since it reserves a few
 >> pixels when drawing it.
 >
 > See glyphless-char-display and glyphless-char-display-control for why.

IIUC it has a `thin-space' display method entry and I could set this to
`zero-width' (the doc-string of `glyphless-char-display' is ambiguous
about that)?  Does this also mean that I can separate text properties of
adjacent words by inserting a zero-width space between them?

 >   #define IT_DISPLAYING_WHITESPACE(it)					\
 >     /* If the character to be displayed is SPC or TAB */
[...]
 > In any case, you can clearly see that it only tests for literal SPC
 > and TAB characters.

Even if I don't understand the code I can see that, yes.

 >>  > If we want to add more characters to the set, we should probably
 >>  > arrange a special char-table for this, and have it exposed to Lisp, so
 >>  > it could be customized.  Patches are welcome.
 >>
 >> IIUC all breakable spaces are between U-2000 and U-200B so maybe a
 >> character table is not needed.
 >
 > Who said we want only break at breakable space characters?  Who said
 > Unicode will never add more such characters in another block?  And
 > what about low-ASCII characters, which are already in a different
 > block?

But implementing a character table and working with it is harder.

 > In any case, even if you are right, a char-table is a way to store
 > character properties efficiently.  In particular, it will waste very
 > little storage to mark a contiguous range of characters with the same
 > property.  The advantage of using a char-table is that it will
 > dynamically expand as needed if more characters are added to the set.

Is it useful to make a _separate_ table for line-break properties?

 >> Anway, exposing displayed text to Lisp would be great.  We'd just need
 >> two functions - one that gets the pixel width of an arbitrary buffer
 >> string wrt a specific window, and one that gets the pixel height of an
 >> arbitrary buffer string (newlines ignored) wrt a specific window.  This
 >> way we could get rid of lots of problems currently hidden in the display
 >> engine ...
 >
 > You lost me here.  By "exposing to Lisp" I meant expose the char-table
 > of word-wrap characters to Lisp.

I only now understand what you meant.

 > What did _you_ want exposed to Lisp?

Two functions: One to get the width of some arbitrary buffer text in
pixels and one to get the full height of a buffer text line in pixels.
The former would be used for doing word-wrapping variants in Lisp, the
latter for fitting windows to their buffers.

martin





  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-11 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-10  8:29 bug#13399: 24.3.50; Word-wrap can't wrap at zero-width space U-200B martin rudalics
2013-01-10 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11  8:16   ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11  8:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 10:29       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2013-01-11 10:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 14:30           ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11 14:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 15:17               ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11 15:22                 ` Christopher Schmidt
2013-01-11 18:04                   ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11 15:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 18:04                   ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11 16:08             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 18:06               ` martin rudalics
2013-01-11 18:50                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 19:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 22:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-12  8:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 13:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-12 14:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 16:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-02 16:48                         ` martin rudalics
2013-02-02 17:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-02 18:20                             ` martin rudalics
2013-02-02 18:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-03  9:44                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-02-03 16:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-03 19:32                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-04 17:04                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-02-04 17:57                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 19:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 14:29                   ` martin rudalics
2013-01-12 14:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 16:37                       ` martin rudalics
2013-01-12 16:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 18:01                           ` martin rudalics
2013-01-12 18:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-14 18:04                               ` martin rudalics
2013-02-03 18:57   ` martin rudalics
2013-02-03 19:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-08  1:02 ` Adam Tack
2017-12-08 10:12   ` martin rudalics
2017-12-08 15:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-08 20:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09  3:50       ` Adam Tack
2017-12-12 17:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-13  4:00           ` Adam Tack
2017-12-13 16:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-17  2:22               ` Adam Tack
2020-09-18 14:55                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 13:15                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 14:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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