From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:19:45 -0800 Message-ID: <50D65C31.5020503@dancol.org> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> <876A7D1112084247AE53F7EE42B4587C@us.oracle.com> <80ehih3hlj.fsf@somewhere.org> <87pq21iwrw.fsf@yandex.ru> <87AE81CEB91846DB94BC5F3B40C788DE@us.oracle.com> <50D64318.5030501@yandex.ru> <0FBA2D9ECA214D82B5C65E5A09E7EE19@us.oracle.com> <20121223090709.6b8eb8a13b4a19006d38600d@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB8F523DE0AD92504540F8905" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356225613 361 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2012 01:20:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: public-emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org, 'Dmitry Gutov' , 'Sebastien Vauban' , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Xue Fuqiao Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 23 02:20:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaEs-0005U8-G3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:20:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35384 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaEe-0006kM-6I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaEY-0006hg-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:20:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaER-0008Dw-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:55591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaER-0008Cw-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:19:59 -0500 Original-Received: from c-76-22-66-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.22.66.162] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TmaEH-0000Ez-CI; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:19:49 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 In-Reply-To: <20121223090709.6b8eb8a13b4a19006d38600d@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155795 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB8F523DE0AD92504540F8905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/22/2012 5:07 PM, Xue Fuqiao wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:45:09 -0800 > "Drew Adams" wrote: >=20 >> The default bindings for keyboard macros were (and still are, addition= ally) `C-x >> (', `C-x )', and `C-x C-e'. Those are mnemonic (start, end, execute) = and do not >> waste repeatable keys. > I think so, too. I opposed binding and to kmacro related com= mands. While I think using F11 for full screen is fine for consistency with othe= r programs, I don't use keyboard macros often enough to justify binding f3 = and f4. On the other hand, we really don't do enough to publicize keyboard macros= =2E No other editor has good macro support, and the feature is a great competiti= ve advantage for Emacs. It'd be nice to introduce new users to keyboard macr= os earlier. --------------enigB8F523DE0AD92504540F8905 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDWXDMACgkQ17c2LVA10VvA2gCgsBi29RIFVwVU00eRHaeeU+Nn 0L0Ani6VgYYsmPsJDADkQ99SqOIpniDk =8kzb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB8F523DE0AD92504540F8905--