From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:11:11 +0100 Message-ID: <509E607F.2050201@gmx.at> References: <87a9uvv6ng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bof9s7cl.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <874nl0ov8g.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <20635.63115.874182.168553@winooski.ccs.neu.edu> <87liecnelf.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <83390k0wgy.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj8jz0rs.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2zmn9hh.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <838vaazux6.fsf@gnu.org> <509E35EF.3080809@gmx.at> <83pq3ly9cy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352556693 20696 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2012 14:11:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dan@haxney.org, eli@barzilay.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nix@esperi.org.uk, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dmoncayo@gmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 10 15:11:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBme-0006sN-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:11:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBmV-0001ij-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:11:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBmP-0001iH-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:11:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBmM-0007Az-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:11:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:56877) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBmM-0007Ac-GL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Nov 2012 14:11:21 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-57-19.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.57.19]) [62.47.57.19] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 10 Nov 2012 15:11:21 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IWP58vATImK9cLITyunD/uEY/UvPLVT8ZCmcm0Z I2veZtJCoQ4BMq In-Reply-To: <83pq3ly9cy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 213.165.64.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154797 Archived-At: >> `scroll-in-place' means for them to keep the cursor at the same position >> of the screen regardless of whether there's any text at that position. >> In practice, this can be currently implemented only with the help of an >> overlay as with Kim's cua-rect.el. > > "Currently" meaning with no changes on the C level, I presume? Exactly. >> Obviously, if we are able to not show the cursor (Emacs on Windows >> currently lacks this capability IIUC) no overlay is needed. > > ??? Of course, we can hide the cursor on Windows. Otherwise, how do > we manage not displaying when auto-hscroll-mode is off and point is > outside of the shown text? Fine. So let's make this available at the Lisp level. martin, wondering why he still can't hide the mouse cursor on Windows