From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: <509CD209.4080507@gmx.at> References: <87a9uvv6ng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bof9s7cl.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <874nl0ov8g.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352455737 26246 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2012 10:08:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Hackney , Eli Barzilay , Emacs development discussions , Stefan Monnier , Dani Moncayo , "Stephen J. Turnbull" To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 09 11:09:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TWlWK-0004X9-I7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWlFI-0003nK-Df for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:51:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWlF8-0003KU-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:51:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWlF6-0007fm-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:51:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:34936) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWlF6-0007fQ-35 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:51:16 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Nov 2012 09:51:15 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-52-3.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.52.3]) [62.47.52.3] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 09 Nov 2012 10:51:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19xT5IHTqNx4+QZbUEzXMU/1CESnTRRTEOnG0JY9N x8EJfRaiBvYZGo In-Reply-To: <874nl0ov8g.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 213.165.64.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154756 Archived-At: >> It could also be used to let the user go back to where she was before >> scrolling (to simulate those other editors where point is not moved to >> stay visible while scrolling, so that non-scrolling commands teleport >> you right back to where you were). > > Ah. That's an interesting variation. Controlled by (setq scroll-in-place > 'unmoving) perhaps? (It should probably hide the cursor while it's > conceptually offscreen as well, on terminals where that's possible, by > flipping cursor-type to nil. Alas this would make it vanish from > non-selected windows too, if cursor-in-non-selected-windows is t...) `scroll-restore-mode' addresses most of these http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-02/msg01892.html and also tries to handle the region during scrolling. martin