From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU ELPA visibility Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:10:58 +0400 Message-ID: <508AB612.3010000@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351267873 25849 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2012 16:11:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jeremiah.dodds@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 26 18:11:22 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRmVE-0002oF-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:11:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59111 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRmV6-0007lY-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRmUx-0007kv-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRmUt-0000gj-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net ([95.108.253.141]:35546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRmUs-0000g9-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:10:59 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E2988D226C7; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:10:56 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A9935190034C; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:10:56 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from 5x166x242x229.dynamic.spb.ertelecom.ru (5x166x242x229.dynamic.spb.ertelecom.ru [5.166.242.229]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id At7GBhSW-Au7SLsVj; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:10:56 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1351267856; bh=Yac/pWA1zb+PPujcpmgJ05Z99TLOgLUuDFt7NhHHN4o=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HiApKwi6K+ekXfDLgxt0az1F1Ew+4hfP/sJu9AvbHJ3GxYs9ZM8yVe4d1uXDhao9I 254ojUTI8ApoD3Q1W7fZUCSslwG57oEIqZntSvL/PGI71TDPRiaNe5JakBCba2sClN hjwZFoEZIqQ9N11uGbreDU0Nb4xGDuB+shx30MtU= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 95.108.253.141 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154522 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > Jeremiah Dodds writes: > >>> When looking for an Elisp package or feature, most people reach for >>> their browser before reaching for M-x list-packages. But packages >>> distributed via GNU ELPA won't show up because they're not visible to >>> search engines. >> >> I think it's very likely that M-x list-packages will get much more >> common as time progresses. It's certainly the first thing that I go to >> nowadays. > > Ditto, but the package explanations given there are far from informative > enough to find the package you need for your task at hand. I look there > first, but then google up the packages that sound relevant, and in the > end that almost always leads to emacswiki. > > It would be good if every package would at least complement Version and > Summary with a longer description, a link to its homepage (or emacswiki > page if it has no homepage), and the date when it was updated the last > time. You may find that, for single-file packages, even if they provide an extended "Commentary" section, it will not show up in the "list-packages" interface. At least when distributed over MELPA or Marmalade. I think it's fixed in Daniel Haxney's package.el fork, though. Showing a link to the homepage (taken from the "URL" header) would be a welcome addition to the interface, too. --Dmitry