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From: "gebser@mousecar.com" <gebser@mousecar.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: FOSS replacement for PDF [Re: editing a PDF]
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 04:26:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5064494c-5c24-ed45-a316-ea90d711ce94@mousecar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57456f0e-5e5e-42d3-6e33-2cdd10d974c5@uni-koeln.de>

On 3/21/23 6:55 PM, Ulrich Deiters wrote:
> Am 21.03.23 um 22:57 schrieb gebser@mousecar.com:
>> Better than that, what FOSS app(s) would be happy replacement for the 
>> Acrobat-Industrial Complex?
> 
> This depends on what you want. Printing a document takes
> (at least) three stages:
> 
> (1) One composes the text using a language that contains formatting
> commands. The best open-source choice is LaTeX. LaTeX code is human-
> readable and can be edited with emacs; in fact, emacs has a LaTeX
> mode. There are also free programs that assist writing LaTeX code,
> or which let one compose XML code, which is then translated into LaTeX.
> 
> (2) One processes the LaTeX code; the results are DVI, PostScript,
> or PDF files. Such files basically consist of instructions of the
> type "choose font F, go to location (X, Y), and print character C". 
> Therefore these files are long and, if converted to a human-readable
> format, very boring. You do not want to edit these.
> 
> (3) The intermediate code is processed to produce a bitmap, which is
> then transferred to the paper.
> 
> So you see, the stage at which editing makes sense is Stage (1).
> 
> Exceptions are graphics designers and artists, who work with PostScript
> or similar languages directly in order to achieve special effects.
> 
> 

Thanks for the very thorough reply.  This question really wasn't for me, 
but rather for people I know and meet who write pdf docs, who take pdf 
as a "standard".  I'm afraid that latex would be far too technological 
for them... and for most people.  Even something like Libreoffice's 
Write would have a more familiar UI-- for that reason alone they'd be 
more like likely to try it.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-15 18:35 emacs 30.5.0 editing epub H.-J. Heitländer
2023-03-16  5:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-16  6:57   ` H.-J. Heitländer
2023-03-17  0:44     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-17  1:13     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-19 21:23       ` editing a PDF [Re: emacs 30.5.0 editing epub] gebser
2023-03-19 23:59         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-20  7:15           ` gebser
2023-03-21  0:31             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-21  6:28             ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-21  6:38               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-03-22 16:32                 ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-22 18:48                   ` Bob Newell
2023-03-23  9:36                     ` Jean Louis
2023-03-23 23:00                       ` Bob Newell
2023-03-23  9:13                   ` Jean Louis
2023-03-23 10:37                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-23 20:13                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-03-23 20:07                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-03-21 11:51               ` Ulrich Deiters
2023-03-21 21:57                 ` gebser
2023-03-21 22:55                   ` Ulrich Deiters
2023-03-22  1:56                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-22  8:26                     ` gebser [this message]
2023-03-22  9:18                       ` FOSS replacement for PDF [Re: editing a PDF] Yuri Khan
2023-03-23  9:21                         ` Jean Louis
2023-03-23  9:49                           ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-23 10:53                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-28 11:28                     ` editing a PDF [Re: emacs 30.5.0 editing epub] Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-22  7:03                   ` Jean Louis
2023-03-22 15:20                     ` gebser
2023-03-16  9:22 ` emacs 30.5.0 editing epub Stephen Berman
2023-03-16 13:16   ` H.-J. Heitländer
2023-03-16 15:23     ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-16 16:54       ` H.-J. Heitländer
2023-03-16 18:58         ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-03-20 21:50           ` emacs 30.5.0 editing epub - finishing remark H.-J. Heitländer

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